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<rss xmlns:blogChannel="http://backend.userland.com/blogChannelModule" xmlns:creativeCommons="http://backend.userland.com/creativeCommonsRssModule" xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:blog="http://bitflux.org/doctypes/blog" xmlns:php="http://php.net/xsl" xmlns:geo="http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#" xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" version="2.0"><channel><title>Nettime-l relay</title><link>http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/</link><description>Relayed from nettime-l - the mailing list for networked cultures, politics, and tactics</description><generator>Flux CMS - http://www.flux-cms.org</generator><item><title>&lt;nettime&gt; /etc 2007 July 11-15 in Linz, Austria - watch the streams!</title><link>http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/2007/07/12/nettime-etc-2007-july-11-15-in-linz-austria-watch-the-streams.html</link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/id/2141/</guid><content:encoded xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Via: Anna&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Eclectic Tech Carnival aka /etc 2007 will held from:&lt;br/&gt;
Wed 11 to Sun 15 july, 2007&lt;br/&gt;
in Linz, Austria&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
http://drupal.eclectictechcarnival.org/&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
The Eclectic Tech Carnival is a gathering of women interested in&lt;br/&gt;
technology. It's held once a year, each time in a venue where there has&lt;br/&gt;
been an interest in hosting one. The first was in Pula, Croatia in 2002,&lt;br/&gt;
followed by Athens (2003), Belgrade (2004), Graz (2005) and Timisoara&lt;br/&gt;
(2006). The event grew out of the Gender Changer's hardware and FLOSS&lt;br/&gt;
courses.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Women from all over the world organise the /etc through mailing lists,&lt;br/&gt;
IRC and IRL meetings - and women come from all over the world to the&lt;br/&gt;
/etc itself.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
The week-long carnival includes workshops on installing free and open&lt;br/&gt;
source software, the hardware crash course, soldering, building websites&lt;br/&gt;
plus art exhibitions, performances, cultural discussions and related&lt;br/&gt;
presentations.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
The program will be streamed from the following url's:&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Location Stwst-Saal:&lt;br/&gt;
http://etc-stream.servus.at:8000/stwst-saal.ogg&lt;br/&gt;
Location Maiz:&lt;br/&gt;
http://etc-stream.servus.at:8000/maiz.ogg&lt;br/&gt;
Evening Performances&lt;br/&gt;
Location Cafe Strom&lt;br/&gt;
http://etc-stream.servus.at:8000/strom.ogg&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Use fabulous VLC media player on Windows, Mac OS X and Linux to play all&lt;br/&gt;
your media files, including the above mentioned .ogg streams!&lt;br/&gt;
Download at http://www.videolan.org/vlc/&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
You can find details about the workshops, lectures, play labs and&lt;br/&gt;
performances here:&lt;br/&gt;
http://drupal.eclectictechcarnival.org/workshops&lt;br/&gt;
http://drupal.eclectictechcarnival.org/lecture&lt;br/&gt;
http://drupal.eclectictechcarnival.org/PlayLab&lt;br/&gt;
http://drupal.eclectictechcarnival.org/performances+&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
BOF -- "Birds of a Feather" - sessions are ad hoc small gatherings of&lt;br/&gt;
women who share an interest in specific topics.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
The program may still change, please check the website!&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
And the program is...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Wednesday July 11&lt;br/&gt;
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12:00-13:30&lt;br/&gt;</content:encoded><dc:subject>Mailinglist</dc:subject><dc:creator>nettime</dc:creator><dc:date>2007-07-12T12:15:02Z</dc:date></item><item><title>&lt;nettime&gt; Organic Intellectual Work: Interview with Andrew Ross [REVISED]</title><link>http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/2007/07/11/nettime-organic-intellectual-work-interview-with-andrew-ross-revised.html</link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/id/2138/</guid><content:encoded xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Via: Geert Lovink&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
http://www.networkcultures.org/geert/interview-with-andrew-ross/&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Organic Intellectual Work&lt;br/&gt;
Interview with Andrew Ross&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
By Geert Lovink&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Does cultural studies scholar and labour activist Andrew Ross need to&lt;br/&gt;
be introduced? I became familiar with the work of U.S. American&lt;br/&gt;
researcher of Scottish decent in the early nineties when his co-edited&lt;br/&gt;
anthology Techno-Cultureand books No Respectand Strange Weatherreached&lt;br/&gt;
wide audiences. His highly readable books deal with a range of topics&lt;br/&gt;
from sweatshop labour, the creative office culture of the dotcoms,&lt;br/&gt;
middle class utopias of the Disney town Celebration to China's economic&lt;br/&gt;
culture as a global player. For outsiders, Andrew Ross might embody the&lt;br/&gt;
'celebrity' persona of academia, but he is someone I experienced as&lt;br/&gt;
modest and open, a prolific writer who is very much on top of the&lt;br/&gt;
issues. To me Andrew Ross has been a role model of how to reconcile the&lt;br/&gt;
world of High Theory with the down-to-earth work within social&lt;br/&gt;
movements, a tension that I have been struggling with since the late&lt;br/&gt;
seventies. Reading Andrew Ross makes you wonder why it is so hard to be&lt;br/&gt;
an organic intellectual after all, as Antonio Gramsci once described&lt;br/&gt;
it, a figure which is light-years away from the abstract universes of&lt;br/&gt;
the Italian autonomous theorists such as Negri, Virno and Lazzarato. No&lt;br/&gt;
esoteric knowledge of Spinoza, Tarde or Deleuze is necessary to enjoy&lt;br/&gt;
Ross. We do not read about exploitation in a moralistic manner but&lt;br/&gt;
instead obtain a deeper understanding of the complex contradictions&lt;br/&gt;
that the global work force has to deal with.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Australian post-doc researcher Melissa Gregg, whose book Affective&lt;br/&gt;
Voicesdeals with the history of (Anglo-Saxon) cultural studies,&lt;br/&gt;
includes a chapter about Andrew Ross. Gregg describes Ross as an&lt;br/&gt;
"intellectual arbiter between the academic politics of cultural studies&lt;br/&gt;
and the activist imperatives of the progressive Left." His "academic&lt;br/&gt;
activism" describes the "human cost of economic growth," thereby&lt;br/&gt;
counterbalancing the "neglect of material labour conditions." Instead&lt;br/&gt;
of fiddling around with concepts and terminologies, Ross describes the&lt;br/&gt;
"human face of economics" much like Barbara Ehrenreich's investigative&lt;br/&gt;
journalism, reaching into the category of airport non-fiction. The&lt;br/&gt;
suspicious attitude towards appropriate payment is the key obstacle to&lt;br/&gt;
an effective labourist politics among Leftist intellectuals. In the&lt;br/&gt;
case of the no collar culture "not only did the culture of willing&lt;br/&gt;
overwork severely haemorrhage any chance of a sustainable industry, but&lt;br/&gt;
investment in the cult of creativity disassociated no collar work from&lt;br/&gt;
the manual labour involved in producing the tools of their craft." In&lt;br/&gt;
the following email exchange with Andrew we focused on the topics of&lt;br/&gt;
research methodology and style of writing, the role of ethnography, the&lt;br/&gt;
question of creative labour and strategies of activism.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
GL: Suppose you were to write one of those booklets and we would&lt;br/&gt;
entitle it Letter to a Young Researcher. How would you approach this?&lt;br/&gt;
Could you tell us something about your method? Is it fair enough to say&lt;br/&gt;
that you moved on from General Theory to case studies? Clearly,&lt;br/&gt;
students need to know about both, but I have the feeling that theory is&lt;br/&gt;
a dead end street these days and that your research methodology offers&lt;br/&gt;
an alternative.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
AR: Since I came of age, intellectually and politically, in the 1970s,&lt;br/&gt;
I was a paid-up member of the Theory Generation, dutifully&lt;br/&gt;
participating in Lacan and Althusser reading groups, and the like. But&lt;br/&gt;
even then, I was rarely comfortable with the hothouse climate around&lt;br/&gt;
what you call General Theory. Even then, I was learning that theory&lt;br/&gt;
should be approached as simply a way of getting from A to B. It wasn't&lt;br/&gt;
the only way to get from A to B, nor was it always the best way, and it&lt;br/&gt;
was easy to get stuck en route with all your mental wheels spinning in&lt;br/&gt;
the air. Indeed, I saw some of the best minds of my generation--to&lt;br/&gt;
paraphrase Allen Ginsberg--vanish down that path. I'm glad I survived,&lt;br/&gt;
I've been in recovery for two decades now.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
When it comes to method--and this is what I tell my graduate&lt;br/&gt;
students--it's more important to know what A and B are. Once you have a&lt;br/&gt;
good sense of your object and the questions you want to answer, then&lt;br/&gt;
you are in a position to choose your methods--i.e. how to get from A to&lt;br/&gt;
B. In most disciplines, the method comes first, and is then applied to&lt;br/&gt;
an object. For us, it's the other way around. The questions and the&lt;br/&gt;
goals determine the methods. So, how will I answer those questions? Do&lt;br/&gt;
I need to do interviews, or conduct surveys? Do I need to visit sites,&lt;br/&gt;
or consult archives? What kind of reading do I need to do, and what is&lt;br/&gt;
the likely audience? In the program where I teach, our students are&lt;br/&gt;
trained in more than one method--ethnography, historical inquiry,&lt;br/&gt;
textual analysis, data analysis--and are encouraged to be flexible in&lt;br/&gt;
their application. They are much more likely to think of themselves as&lt;br/&gt;
investigators, undertaking case-studies, rather than being motivated by&lt;br/&gt;
general theoretical problems.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Approaching research in this manner, it's more likely that they will&lt;br/&gt;
find their own voice, or at least a voice that is uniquely theirs,&lt;br/&gt;
rather than aping the consensus voice of their discipline, or whatever&lt;br/&gt;
influential master thinker they have been weaned on. It took me several&lt;br/&gt;
years to shake off my own academic training and find a voice that I&lt;br/&gt;
felt was my own and I had to go well outside my comfort zone to achieve&lt;br/&gt;
anything. So my advice to young researchers is tailored to the goal of&lt;br/&gt;
getting them to that point much earlier than I did.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
GL: Does your move from Cultural Studies to a new form of labour&lt;br/&gt;
sociology also imply a critique of the way in which cultural studies&lt;br/&gt;
has been bogged down in studying popular culture and mainstream&lt;br/&gt;
products and services? In my experience 'cultural studies' has not&lt;br/&gt;
globalized but can increasingly be identified as an Ango-Saxon project&lt;br/&gt;
that has not broadened its reference system outside of the UK, USA and&lt;br/&gt;
Australia. It may have adopted 'French theory' but in France itself&lt;br/&gt;
cultural studies is nowhere to be seen. Now, there is nothing wrong&lt;br/&gt;
with cultural specificity and the political heritage of research&lt;br/&gt;
schools ... knowledge is always embedded in particular generations and&lt;br/&gt;
experiences of a small group of players. I know there are zillion&lt;br/&gt;
debates about the 'future of cultural studies' but could you&lt;br/&gt;
nonetheless say something about this?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
AR: To answer that question, I'd have to touch on a debate about why&lt;br/&gt;
labour was not more central to cultural studies during its heyday.&lt;br/&gt;
Indeed, some would say that a conscious effort was made to sideline&lt;br/&gt;
attention to labour. This is quite understandable if you consider how&lt;br/&gt;
the British Left, for example, was dominated by a labourist mentality&lt;br/&gt;
in the 1960s and 1970s. It was necessary to get out from under the&lt;br/&gt;
heavy weight of that mindset to appreciate that other things mattered&lt;br/&gt;
politically. I myself grew up in the industrial belt of Scotland, where&lt;br/&gt;
labourism was the air that you breathed, and so the discovery of&lt;br/&gt;
cultural politics--the fact that you could even think about culture&lt;br/&gt;
politically--came as a revelation. Naturally, there was a certain&lt;br/&gt;
degree of overcompensation involved in the cultural turn. Folks just&lt;br/&gt;
kept going further and further from the labour fold, arguing that this&lt;br/&gt;
or that sector of daily life "mattered" in ever more ingenious&lt;br/&gt;
permutations of the feminist axiom that "the personal is the&lt;br/&gt;
political." The result was that the field of political economy was&lt;br/&gt;
abandoned, to some extent, to the hardliners, who no longer had to&lt;br/&gt;
listen to the feminists, queers, cultural radicals, and ethnic identity&lt;br/&gt;
advocates, and polarization set in between the cultural justice and the&lt;br/&gt;
economic justice camps. The legacy of that split is still with&lt;br/&gt;
us--indeed it has been played out in every US election since the early&lt;br/&gt;
1990s. There's no doubt it has hampered the Left, but the division has&lt;br/&gt;
been exploited much more adroitly by the Right.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
While you may be right about the limited geographical footprint of&lt;br/&gt;
Cultural Studies as an academic discipline, I don't think these larger&lt;br/&gt;
political conflicts are confined to the Anglophone countries. They are&lt;br/&gt;
expressed in different ways in other societies--usually through the&lt;br/&gt;
repressive filter of religion or statism or ethnic sectarianism--and&lt;br/&gt;
are sometimes harder to discern, but they are no less relevant.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
In all of the hand wringing about polarization, what's neglected is the&lt;br/&gt;
work that was done--it was never really abandoned--and is still being&lt;br/&gt;
done to reconnect these two wings of social justice. I suppose that's&lt;br/&gt;
where I would place my own energies from the late 80s onwards, in areas&lt;br/&gt;
of research--science and technology, and environmentalism in books like&lt;br/&gt;
Strange Weather, The Chicago Gangster Theory of Life, and Real&lt;br/&gt;
Love--that were not at all central at the time to the main currents of&lt;br/&gt;
cultural studies. By the mid-1990s, I was being drawn into labour and&lt;br/&gt;
urban research, both of which have dictated the bulk of my research and&lt;br/&gt;
activism for the last decade or so. However, I'm not sure I would have&lt;br/&gt;
gone in that direction if it hadn't been for cultural studies. For&lt;br/&gt;
example, it was my interest in fashion consumption that took me into&lt;br/&gt;
the anti-sweatshop movement and led to the publication of No Sweatand&lt;br/&gt;
Low Pay, High Profile, and it was an interest in ecological politics&lt;br/&gt;
that motivated my field work on the New Urbanist movement in The&lt;br/&gt;
Celebration Chronicles.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
One area where all these currents re-converge is in the emergent policy&lt;br/&gt;
about the "creative economy." Here is a sector that has received a&lt;br/&gt;
massive amount of attention from government agencies and national&lt;br/&gt;
economic managers desperate for a development paradigm that will allow&lt;br/&gt;
them to compete or play catch-up in the high-skill, knowledge economy.&lt;br/&gt;
And it's all about cultural workers, once seen as completely marginal&lt;br/&gt;
to the forces of production and now increasingly central as a source of&lt;br/&gt;
potential economic value. Now there does exist an extensive body of&lt;br/&gt;
cultural studies scholarship, initiated by Tony Bennett in the&lt;br/&gt;
mid-1990s, that engaged directly with cultural policy-making, but it's&lt;br/&gt;
only recently that this tendency has moved centre-stage, and will, I&lt;br/&gt;
predict, occupy more and more of the field. In many ways, it's an angle&lt;br/&gt;
that was missing from Raymond Williams' distinction between two&lt;br/&gt;
conceptions of culture: one based on the high/low value hierarchy, and&lt;br/&gt;
the other, more anthropological understanding of culture as "way of&lt;br/&gt;
life." Neither made much room for culture as a livelihood, or cultural&lt;br/&gt;
work as labour. In Williams's day, it would have taken a remarkable act&lt;br/&gt;
of social foresight to imagine that artists, writers, and designers&lt;br/&gt;
would come to be seen, in the governmental imagination, as model&lt;br/&gt;
entrepreneurs for the new economy, and yet here we are.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Let me give you an instructive example. Back in the mid-1990s, after&lt;br/&gt;
the leadership of the AFL-CIO (American Federation of Labor and&lt;br/&gt;
Congress of Industrial Organizations)changed hands, I became involved&lt;br/&gt;
in a organization called Scholars, Artists, and Writers for Social&lt;br/&gt;
Justice (SAWSJ). It was founded, mostly by labour historians, in&lt;br/&gt;
recognition of the hope that the US labour's movement's era of&lt;br/&gt;
complicity in the Cold War was over, and that a rapprochement with&lt;br/&gt;
intellectuals was now possible. Most of the activities of SAWSJ were&lt;br/&gt;
dedicated to supporting the industrial and service unions. This was&lt;br/&gt;
entirely laudable, but it often meant ignoring the labour issues in our&lt;br/&gt;
own backyard of the knowledge economies. Even at that time, it was&lt;br/&gt;
difficult to get an audience for the view that we were not only in&lt;br/&gt;
denial about this, and that we should be alerting the labour movement&lt;br/&gt;
to the opportunities and dangers posed by the burgeoning&lt;br/&gt;
culture/creative/knowledge industries (I wrote an essay "The Mental&lt;br/&gt;
Labour Problem," which was intended to address this denial). Not long&lt;br/&gt;
after, managers and ideologues of the New Economy dramatically reshaped&lt;br/&gt;
perceptions about how value could be generated, and the labour movement&lt;br/&gt;
was left sucking dust. New media employees helped to glamorize the 24/7&lt;br/&gt;
workweek, design, art, architecture, and custom craft were embraced as&lt;br/&gt;
engines for boosting property values in the real estate boom, the&lt;br/&gt;
amateur (MyCreativity) ethic became the basis for a whole new discount&lt;br/&gt;
mode of production that exploited the cult of attention as a cheap&lt;br/&gt;
labour supply, and much, much, more along these lines.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
The only development along these lines that has really attracted trade&lt;br/&gt;
unions is in academic organizing, and largely because it offers a&lt;br/&gt;
fairly traditional opportunity to recruit new members. For sure, there&lt;br/&gt;
are individual unionists, mostly in sectors like telecommunications,&lt;br/&gt;
who are keeping up with changes in the mode of production, but the&lt;br/&gt;
labour movement, as a whole, and not just in the US, may have&lt;br/&gt;
relinquished the short-term opportunity to fight over the terms of the&lt;br/&gt;
knowledge economy. Knowledge and cultural workers are accustomed to&lt;br/&gt;
think of themselves as in the vanguard, and it will probably take a&lt;br/&gt;
generation of "proletarianization" and another big recession to&lt;br/&gt;
persuade them that collective organizing is in their long-term&lt;br/&gt;
interest. But that's no reason not to build a movement of ideas and&lt;br/&gt;
actions that will be serviceable, when that moment comes.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
GL: I read your Low Pay, High Profileas a search for new strategies in&lt;br/&gt;
activism. In your 'academic activism' you leave behind the&lt;br/&gt;
disempowering reform-or-revolution choice and try to imagine, being&lt;br/&gt;
part of a movement, where the 'global push for fair labour' can be&lt;br/&gt;
taken. Here in Amsterdam I have seen how the Clean Clothes Campaign is&lt;br/&gt;
doing this. Is it fair to say that you practice a form of 'radical&lt;br/&gt;
pragmatism'? Is there a politics of immersion? Many of us fear deep&lt;br/&gt;
engagement and try to keep the appropriation machines at a safe&lt;br/&gt;
distance. How do you gain the confidence to survive Disney's&lt;br/&gt;
Celebration, the dotcom madness, and Chinese IT culture?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
AR: "Intellectual activism" is a term we use among our students. We&lt;br/&gt;
vastly prefer it to "public intellectual" because there are very few&lt;br/&gt;
slots available on the public media spectrum at any one time, and they&lt;br/&gt;
are usually reserved for gatekeepers or single-issue political&lt;br/&gt;
advocates. For sure, activists and intellectuals function in a&lt;br/&gt;
different kind of temporality. The activist needs something to happen&lt;br/&gt;
tomorrow, the intellectual needs a slower germination of ideas. But you&lt;br/&gt;
can't have movement of action without a movement of ideas, and the&lt;br/&gt;
challenge really is to try to synchronize your thought with what's&lt;br/&gt;
happening on the ground. If you work closely, as a scholar, with a&lt;br/&gt;
justice movement, then requests will invariably be made to provide&lt;br/&gt;
tailor-made research to further the activist cause. In some instances,&lt;br/&gt;
that will be straightforward, in others it won't be so easy to provide&lt;br/&gt;
because activists generally don't want complexity, they need black and&lt;br/&gt;
white, and critical scholars are not trained to think in black and&lt;br/&gt;
white. I have certainly encountered this dilemma in my own&lt;br/&gt;
labour-oriented work, in the anti-sweatshop movement, for example,&lt;br/&gt;
where, at times it seems that the only desirable research is that which&lt;br/&gt;
corroborates the existence of corporate atrocities. But I didn't&lt;br/&gt;
experience it as a fear of "deep engagement" as you suggest, nor as a&lt;br/&gt;
fear of indulging in intellectual dishonesty.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Take the work I did in the China field as an example. I had been a&lt;br/&gt;
China-watcher for a long time, but was clearly not a sinologist.&lt;br/&gt;
Nonetheless, I figured that I may be able to produce some useful&lt;br/&gt;
research (that a sinologist, bound by disciplinary convention, perhaps&lt;br/&gt;
could not) by going there. So, too, since the AFL-CIO refuses to have&lt;br/&gt;
any official relationship with the China labour federation, there was a&lt;br/&gt;
real research gap for labour scholars and educators to fill. I was&lt;br/&gt;
familiar with all the literature on the labour-intensive export&lt;br/&gt;
factories of South China, but I could find very little about the&lt;br/&gt;
Yangtze Delta workplaces, where the lion's share of high-tech FDI was&lt;br/&gt;
beginning to flow, and most of it higher up the technology curve than&lt;br/&gt;
in South China. At that time, there was a wave of anxiety about the&lt;br/&gt;
outsourcing of high-wage, high-skill jobs to China and India, but very&lt;br/&gt;
little was known about the conditions, aspirations, and opinions of the&lt;br/&gt;
new offshore workforce employees. So I enrolled in Mandarin classes for&lt;br/&gt;
a year to give me some language mobility and took my family off to&lt;br/&gt;
Shanghai to see what I could find. A trained sinologist would probably&lt;br/&gt;
not have started out interviewing where I did--at the American Chamber&lt;br/&gt;
of Commerce, in the belly of the beast, as it were--but in fact the&lt;br/&gt;
contacts I made there helped open doors to many of the factory and&lt;br/&gt;
office workplaces where I did my research. Nor do I think that a&lt;br/&gt;
sinologist would have followed some of the leads I did since they were&lt;br/&gt;
often about explicitly transnational flows of capital, knowledge,&lt;br/&gt;
technology, personnel, and customs.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
In fact, in the year's worth of field work I did in the Yangtze Delta&lt;br/&gt;
industrial parks, I didn't come across a single researcher doing&lt;br/&gt;
anything in any of the areas I myself was pursuing--documenting the&lt;br/&gt;
regional labour market, workplace conditions, the nature and character&lt;br/&gt;
of the investments, the rate of technology transfer and knowledge&lt;br/&gt;
transfer into the industrial parks, the cultural conflicts between&lt;br/&gt;
young Chinese engineers and their foreign managers, etc. Now this is&lt;br/&gt;
the single biggest regional economy in China, and the most high-tech,&lt;br/&gt;
so it was astonishing to find no one else in the field. Even the&lt;br/&gt;
foreign journalists I got to know there rarely left their offices in&lt;br/&gt;
Shanghai--a convention, no doubt, that goes back to pre-Liberation&lt;br/&gt;
days.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
So, to get back to the gist of your question, I think the "confidence"&lt;br/&gt;
you refer to has more to do with not being bound by the conventions of&lt;br/&gt;
a discipline or a profession that tends to dictate the conduct of&lt;br/&gt;
scholars, activist, and journalists much more than we imagine. I became&lt;br/&gt;
an agnostic in that regard a long time ago. The downside of this is&lt;br/&gt;
that you have no idea who your audience will be, or that you will&lt;br/&gt;
indeed have an audience. For example, the most detailed early review of&lt;br/&gt;
my China book was by George Gilder, in his newsletter for high-tech&lt;br/&gt;
investors. He mined it for information about the performance of Chinese&lt;br/&gt;
tech companies that would be especially useful to his readers. Not&lt;br/&gt;
exactly the kind of audience I had anticipated!&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
GL: How important is storytelling in your work and is it something that&lt;br/&gt;
we, cultural theorists, can learn? I find this skill more difficult to&lt;br/&gt;
practice, and teach, compared to the relatively easy act of summarizing&lt;br/&gt;
the theory of canon of the day, now Agamben and Badiou, in the past&lt;br/&gt;
Derrida and Foucault, and Althusser and Gramsci in the early 1980s. I&lt;br/&gt;
see your recent work in the critical anthropology tradition. Action&lt;br/&gt;
research also had a particular mix of observation and active&lt;br/&gt;
participation. Is ethnography something we should look into or do we&lt;br/&gt;
then again run the risk of turning it into a theory religion?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
AR: You are right, it is not easy to teach, and largely because it is&lt;br/&gt;
so experiential. I was trained first as a textual analyst, and then as&lt;br/&gt;
a theorist, so I developed skills as a close reader and a conceptual&lt;br/&gt;
thinker. What this meant was that I was a pretty bad listener. I grew&lt;br/&gt;
up in a storytelling, working class culture in Scotland, but my&lt;br/&gt;
academic training had taught me to distrust all of that, in fact, to&lt;br/&gt;
distrust language tout court. Over time, and as I developed my own&lt;br/&gt;
ethnographic techniques, I had to re-learn how to listen to other&lt;br/&gt;
people's stories, and to be accountable to these people when I used&lt;br/&gt;
their stories for my own purposes. So listening was important. As for&lt;br/&gt;
telling the stories, the genre of investigative journalism has probably&lt;br/&gt;
been as useful to me as critical anthropology. When anthropologists are&lt;br/&gt;
in the field, they are often competing with journalists (though not on&lt;br/&gt;
deadlines) but they rarely acknowledge journalistic narrative. In the&lt;br/&gt;
full-length ethnographies I have done--in new media companies, in&lt;br/&gt;
Celebration, and in China--I was competing directly with other&lt;br/&gt;
journalists for stories insofar as my informants were often used to&lt;br/&gt;
talking to journalists. Being a scholar was an advantage in those&lt;br/&gt;
situations because people trust you more with their stories and&lt;br/&gt;
confidence.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
As for ethnography becoming a religion, I don't see that happening. To&lt;br/&gt;
go back to what I said at the outset, it's a method for getting from A&lt;br/&gt;
to B, but it's not the only way, nor is it always the best way. You&lt;br/&gt;
have to choose your methods based on your goals. These days,&lt;br/&gt;
ethnography feels more honest to me than the kind of armchair criticism&lt;br/&gt;
that I started out doing in the 1980s, but I still do certain kinds of&lt;br/&gt;
writing that don't entail getting out of my seat.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
GL: Activist campaigning is becoming more and more associated with&lt;br/&gt;
'tactical media', social networking and so on. Is this justified? Do&lt;br/&gt;
you think that a better understanding of Web 2.0 and new media would&lt;br/&gt;
alter activism as is often claimed? As you know my work is associated&lt;br/&gt;
with the 'tactical media' term but I have often made clear that (new)&lt;br/&gt;
media cannot create social movements out of nothing. A more effective&lt;br/&gt;
way of using cell phones and the Net is not in itself a guarantee that&lt;br/&gt;
the real existing discontent in global capitalism will flip into&lt;br/&gt;
organized resistance or even protest.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
AR: I agree, these days it is necessary but not sufficient for social&lt;br/&gt;
movements to be tech savvy. The tactics for outwitting the oppressor&lt;br/&gt;
have to be continually updated, and that is the job of movement&lt;br/&gt;
tacticians, but the "sufficient conditions" for change haven't altered&lt;br/&gt;
appreciably. You need a critical mass of popular sentiment, you need a&lt;br/&gt;
significant fraction of elites to break with their class station and&lt;br/&gt;
cross over, and you need an effective formula for capturing media&lt;br/&gt;
attention. These days, most social justice movements have about six or&lt;br/&gt;
seven years to make their mark before a) activists burn out or branch&lt;br/&gt;
off, b) the formula exhausts its efficacy, c) the enemy coopts public&lt;br/&gt;
attention. The anti-sweatshop movement was a good example; the formula&lt;br/&gt;
of shaming the brand was like a narcotic for the media, "Nike&lt;br/&gt;
sweatshops" became a household phrase, and elite guilt was&lt;br/&gt;
appropriately mobilized. It took the lavishly funded efforts of&lt;br/&gt;
"corporate social responsibility" several years to convince the public&lt;br/&gt;
that the big garment companies had somehow "fixed" the problem and that&lt;br/&gt;
it was OK to go out and buy Gap clothing again. In the interim, I think&lt;br/&gt;
we achieved quite a lot. At the very least, the trading rules of the&lt;br/&gt;
global economy are now contested in the public eye, rather than written&lt;br/&gt;
in secret by unelected WTO officials, and consciousness-raising about&lt;br/&gt;
sweatshops contributed, in no small part, to that shift in the rules of&lt;br/&gt;
play.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
That said, there is one key area of activism in which tactical media&lt;br/&gt;
has become particularly important, and that is in the copyfight over&lt;br/&gt;
intellectual property. The corporate rush to proprietize knowledge is&lt;br/&gt;
surely one of the biggest acts of theft in centuries, and new media&lt;br/&gt;
activists have a frontline role to play, because the tactical tools&lt;br/&gt;
they use are, more often than not, the technologies at play in the&lt;br/&gt;
property grab. Disciplining rogue users (for the downloading of&lt;br/&gt;
unauthorized content) is just the most highly publicized face of the&lt;br/&gt;
massive effort of capital-owners to administer an effective division of&lt;br/&gt;
labour within the knowledge industries. That effort increasingly&lt;br/&gt;
depends upon control over not only the authorized use of technologies,&lt;br/&gt;
but also the IP inside employee's heads. But it's not just the&lt;br/&gt;
high-tech employees that are suspect. The new property grabbers are in&lt;br/&gt;
a running battle with the ever-proficient hackers of the technocratic&lt;br/&gt;
fraternity, and now they have to contend with a small army of&lt;br/&gt;
legally-minded and tech-savvy advocates of the information commons.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
As I see it, this contest is very much an elite "copyfight" between&lt;br/&gt;
capital-owner monopolists and the labour aristocracy of the digitariat&lt;br/&gt;
(a dominated fraction of the dominant class, as Pierre Bourdieu once&lt;br/&gt;
described intellectuals) struggling to preserve and extend their&lt;br/&gt;
high-skill interests. The history of shareware and its maturation into&lt;br/&gt;
free software/open source can be seen as the narrative of a distinctive&lt;br/&gt;
class fraction--a thwarted technocratic elite whose libertarian world&lt;br/&gt;
view butts up against the established proprietary interests of&lt;br/&gt;
capital-owners. While they see their knowledge and expertise generating&lt;br/&gt;
wealth, they chafe at their lack of control over the property assets.&lt;br/&gt;
Their willingness to work against the proprietary IP regime is directly&lt;br/&gt;
linked to their entrepreneurial-artisanal instincts, but, more&lt;br/&gt;
importantly, it is a power-test of their capacity to act upon the&lt;br/&gt;
world. The class traitors in their midst are engineer innovators who go&lt;br/&gt;
over to the dark Gatesian side of IP monopoly enforcement. So, too, the&lt;br/&gt;
mutualist ethos of the FLOSS communities is very much underpinned by&lt;br/&gt;
the confidence of members that their expertise will keep them on the&lt;br/&gt;
upside of the technology curve that protects the best and brightest&lt;br/&gt;
from proletarianization.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
What I don't see is all that much attention to those less-skilled who&lt;br/&gt;
are further down the entitlement hierarchy, who are not direct&lt;br/&gt;
participants in this power struggle, and whose prospects in the chain&lt;br/&gt;
of production do not extend to the profile of the master-craftsman&lt;br/&gt;
straining at the corporate leash. They are much more distant from the&lt;br/&gt;
rewards of authorship, and are less likely to feel personally&lt;br/&gt;
disrespected when IP rights are expropriated from above. So how do the&lt;br/&gt;
interests of these below-the-line workers get represented in the&lt;br/&gt;
copyfight? I'd like to see new media tacticians think more about&lt;br/&gt;
sustainable income models for everyone rather than focus primarily on&lt;br/&gt;
the livelihoods of creatives or high-skill knowledge workers.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
GL: Surprisingly, in the new media sector, young professionals are&lt;br/&gt;
earning less and less while their working conditions aren't that great&lt;br/&gt;
either. This is one of the outcomes of Rosalind Gill and Daniella van&lt;br/&gt;
Daemon's case study on the Amsterdam web designers. It's important here&lt;br/&gt;
to add another level that sufficiently describes freedom and&lt;br/&gt;
subjectivity of the actors involved. People are passionate about the&lt;br/&gt;
challenges that new media create. In what ways could we describe such a&lt;br/&gt;
paradoxical circumstance?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
AR: The Amsterdam study is interesting, though these results don't&lt;br/&gt;
surprise me. The labour market for new media employees was at its&lt;br/&gt;
rosiest at the height of the New Economy years---there was a limited&lt;br/&gt;
labour supply, the new entrants had a monopoly on skills and applied&lt;br/&gt;
knowledge, and demand for them was fierce. Under normal circumstances,&lt;br/&gt;
conditions and pay scales could be expected to deteriorate from that&lt;br/&gt;
high. But the impact of outsourcing, since 2001, has accelerated that&lt;br/&gt;
decline, if not in terms of actual jobs transferred overseas, then as a&lt;br/&gt;
result of the general climate of insecurity that has been ushered into&lt;br/&gt;
white collar and no collar workplaces by the imminent threat of&lt;br/&gt;
"knowledge transfer." The house motto of Razorfish in the boom years&lt;br/&gt;
used to be "Whatever can be digital, will be." It was by no means easy&lt;br/&gt;
to predict what came to pass all too quickly as "whatever can be&lt;br/&gt;
outsourced, will be." For sure, the offshore transfers started out in&lt;br/&gt;
coding and in the more routine sectors, but they moved up into design&lt;br/&gt;
and web development fairly rapidly. As far as jobs in the global North&lt;br/&gt;
goes, there's no reason not to expect that the situation will soon&lt;br/&gt;
resemble the garment industry, with the most specialized, custom work&lt;br/&gt;
remaining onshore, perhaps along with a less formal sector of sweated&lt;br/&gt;
or intern work needed for fast turnaround. Everything else will be done&lt;br/&gt;
overseas.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
As for on-the-job passion and enthusiasm, it's an integral part of the&lt;br/&gt;
job profile, attested to through thick and thin. It was this devotion&lt;br/&gt;
that got me interested in studying new media workplaces in the first&lt;br/&gt;
place, since it's quite uncommon, in the history of modern work, to&lt;br/&gt;
hear employees express this kind of zeal around their jobs. My study,&lt;br/&gt;
in No-Collar, turned into an effort to describe and diagnose the&lt;br/&gt;
conditions of "self-exploitation" that resulted. One of my informants&lt;br/&gt;
put it most succinctly when she said she was given "work that you just&lt;br/&gt;
couldn't help doing," and in a workplace from which the very last drops&lt;br/&gt;
of alienation had been squeezed. Nowadays, every knowledge industry&lt;br/&gt;
employer recognizes the benefits of this kind of ideal employee, who is&lt;br/&gt;
turned on by the challenge of risk, accustomed to sacrifice (long&lt;br/&gt;
hours) in pursuit of gratification, and willing to trade his or her&lt;br/&gt;
most free time and free thoughts in return for the gifts of mobility&lt;br/&gt;
and autonomy. Folks in the arts have long lived with this sacrificial&lt;br/&gt;
mentality, and know a thing or two about the insecurity associated with&lt;br/&gt;
it. So, too, gearheads, from the days of ham radio onwards, are&lt;br/&gt;
familiar with the devotional cults that a machine can inspire. But&lt;br/&gt;
neither cohort has been prepared for the consequences wrought by the&lt;br/&gt;
rapid industrialization of their respective crafts and hobbies. The&lt;br/&gt;
effort to industrialize custom creativity is a primary goal of&lt;br/&gt;
capitalist production today, right now.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
I suppose I would say the same of the academic sector, with the proviso&lt;br/&gt;
that academics are so fond of their siege mentality that they can only&lt;br/&gt;
see their workplaces being invaded by corporate logic or industrial&lt;br/&gt;
process. They don't see that the traffic goes in both directions, they&lt;br/&gt;
know so little about the corporate world that they can't see how the&lt;br/&gt;
mentality and customs of academic life are being transplanted into&lt;br/&gt;
knowledge firms, whose research is increasingly conducted along similar&lt;br/&gt;
lines. The truth of the matter is we are living through the formative&lt;br/&gt;
stages of a mode of production marked by a quasi-convergence of the&lt;br/&gt;
academy and the knowledge corporation. Neither is what it used to be;&lt;br/&gt;
both are mutating into new species that share and trade many&lt;br/&gt;
characteristics, and these changes are part and parcel of the economic&lt;br/&gt;
environment in which they function.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
GL: You touched on the "creative economy." As you know, we've been&lt;br/&gt;
dealing with this in the MyCreativity project that my institute in&lt;br/&gt;
Amsterdam co-initiated. What should the critical research in this field&lt;br/&gt;
look into? There is a call to go beyond the hype bashing and look into&lt;br/&gt;
the labour precarity issue. Still, the consensus-driven hegemony of&lt;br/&gt;
business consultants seems strong and uncontested. What work could be&lt;br/&gt;
done to open the field and make space for other voices and practices?&lt;br/&gt;
Are there ways to obtain cultural hegemony these days?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
AR: That's a good question, and should be at the heart of anyone&lt;br/&gt;
interested in a sustainable job economy. It's not all that productive&lt;br/&gt;
to scoff at policy initiatives that might just be capable of generating&lt;br/&gt;
a better deal for creative labour. As I see it, critical research ought&lt;br/&gt;
to be doing what governments are not, and that is coming up with&lt;br/&gt;
qualitative profiles of what a "good" creative job should look like,&lt;br/&gt;
based on ethnographic methods. Currently, all we have are productivity&lt;br/&gt;
and GDP statistics, on the government side, and, on the other side, a&lt;br/&gt;
cumulative pile of scepticism based on the well-known perils of&lt;br/&gt;
precarity that afflict creative work, dating back to the rise of&lt;br/&gt;
culture markets in the late eighteenth century. I have yet to see a&lt;br/&gt;
"mapping" of the creative sector that includes factors relating to the&lt;br/&gt;
quality of work life. It wasn't that long ago, in the 1970s, in&lt;br/&gt;
response to the so-called "revolt against work," that governments&lt;br/&gt;
actively championed "quality of work life." Of course, corporations&lt;br/&gt;
came up with their own versions of "innovative" alternatives to the&lt;br/&gt;
humdrum routines of standard industrial employment, but the hunger for&lt;br/&gt;
mentally challenging work in a secure workplace has undergirded and&lt;br/&gt;
outlived all the management fads that followed.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
For those with an appetite for a dialogue with the policy-makers, I'd&lt;br/&gt;
say that the qualitative research about good jobs is a plausible way to&lt;br/&gt;
go (and I'm talking about fully-loaded jobs, not simply work&lt;br/&gt;
opportunities). It wouldn't take all that much to come up with some&lt;br/&gt;
proposals for guidelines, if not outright guarantees, about income and&lt;br/&gt;
security, based on that kind of research. The goal would be to offer a&lt;br/&gt;
sustainable alternative to the IP jackpot economy that currently drives&lt;br/&gt;
the consultants' world-view. I'm not sure if the result would be what&lt;br/&gt;
you would call cultural hegemony, but if the challenge to existing&lt;br/&gt;
hegemony is going to draw on labour power in any way then it's in our&lt;br/&gt;
interest to ensure that there will be a robust employment sector there&lt;br/&gt;
to provide heft and volume to these challenges. Clearly, the strategies&lt;br/&gt;
for organizing have to be re-thought in ever more ingenious ways, but&lt;br/&gt;
there are no good substitutes for organizing, as far as I can see.&lt;br/&gt;
Tactics like culture jamming or brand busting have their uses, and they&lt;br/&gt;
have served as appropriate tools, but you can't give up on the power of&lt;br/&gt;
numbers.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
(edited by Ned Rossiter)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;</content:encoded><dc:subject>Mailinglist</dc:subject><dc:creator>nettime</dc:creator><dc:date>2007-07-11T17:02:02Z</dc:date></item><item><title>&lt;nettime&gt; more about money</title><link>http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/2007/07/11/nettime-more-about-money.html</link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/id/2135/</guid><content:encoded xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Via: Keith Hart&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
The age of money&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Ours is an age of money. If human society has any unity at this time it&lt;br/&gt;
is as a world 'market'. There is nothing wrong with people exchanging&lt;br/&gt;
goods and services as equals. Markets are indispensable to the extension&lt;br/&gt;
of society. The problem is that they use money: some people have lots of&lt;br/&gt;
it and most don't have enough. The unequal face of the age of money is&lt;br/&gt;
'capitalism'; and the principal source of that inequality has been a&lt;br/&gt;
machine revolution whose uneven development is only two centuries old.&lt;br/&gt;
The combination of money and machines is the engine pushing humanity&lt;br/&gt;
from the village to the city as our normal habitat. The result is a&lt;br/&gt;
polarized world society that resembles nothing so much as the Old&lt;br/&gt;
Regime, with an isolated elite controlling the destiny of powerless&lt;br/&gt;
human masses to whose fate they are largely indifferent.[1]</content:encoded><dc:subject>Mailinglist</dc:subject><dc:creator>nettime</dc:creator><dc:date>2007-07-11T12:25:07Z</dc:date></item><item><title>&lt;nettime&gt; Textile Activism: Srebrenica Memorial Quilt Unites Massacre Survivors in Bosnia and America</title><link>http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/2007/07/11/nettime-textile-activism-srebrenica-memorial-quilt-unites-massacre-survivors-in-bosnia-and-america.html</link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/id/2132/</guid><content:encoded xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Via: "AdvocacyNet"&lt;br/&gt;
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*****&lt;br/&gt;
AdvocacyNet&lt;br/&gt;
News Bulletin 110&lt;br/&gt;
*****&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Srebrenica Memorial Quilt Unites Massacre Survivors in Bosnia and&lt;br/&gt;
America&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
July 10, 2007, St. Louis, United States: Survivors of the 1995 Srebrenica&lt;br/&gt;
massacre in Bosnia and the United States have joined forces to launch a large,&lt;br/&gt;
hand-woven quilt in memory of more than 8,000 men and boys who were killed in&lt;br/&gt;
the massacre.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
The quilt was unveiled in public for the first time on Sunday at a religious&lt;br/&gt;
ceremony in St. Louis, which is home to more than 45,000 Bosnian refugees,&lt;br/&gt;
including around 5,000 former inhabitants of Srebrenica. Men, women and&lt;br/&gt;
children paused in silence at the quilt, and many laid flowers.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
The quilt measures around two square meters and comprises 20 panels, each&lt;br/&gt;
carrying the name of a massacre victim. The panels were hand-woven by five&lt;br/&gt;
women weavers from Bosfam, a women's organization in Bosnia that brings&lt;br/&gt;
together women who lost relatives in the massacre. One weaver, Nura Suljic,&lt;br/&gt;
lost her brother, brother-in-law, father-in-law and cousin in the massacre.&lt;br/&gt;
Her husband is also missing.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
The Bosfam weavers are using the quilt to reach out to the large, Bosnian&lt;br/&gt;
diaspora in the US, in the hope of keeping the message of Srebrenica alive.&lt;br/&gt;
They have also offered to make new panels for any Bosnian family that lost a&lt;br/&gt;
relative in the massacre. This way, they hope that the quilt can move around&lt;br/&gt;
diaspora communities outside Bosnia, growing in size and generating publicity.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
"It's a great idea," said Rusmin Topalovic, Vice President of the&lt;br/&gt;
Association for the Survivors of Genocide in Srebrenica, a community group in&lt;br/&gt;
St. Louis.&lt;br/&gt;
"I'm sure plenty of relatives will want to commission panels."&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
The quilt was brought to St. Louis on behalf of Bosfam by The Advocacy Project&lt;br/&gt;
(AP), which has supported Bosfam's advocacy since 2002. Alison Morse, a&lt;br/&gt;
graduate student at Tufts University is volunteering with Bosfam this summer&lt;br/&gt;
as an AP Peace Fellow and is helping Bosfam to manage the quilt.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Meanwhile, in Bosnia itself, thousands of Srebrenica relatives and survivors&lt;br/&gt;
will gather tomorrow at the site of the massacre to mark the 12th anniversary&lt;br/&gt;
and rebury around 460 massacre victims who have been identified during the&lt;br/&gt;
past year. Among those attending will be the Bosfam weavers and several&lt;br/&gt;
families from St. Louis who lost relatives.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Srebrenica is the largest mass killing to have taken place on European soil&lt;br/&gt;
since the end of World War II. The town was besieged by the Bosnian Serbs for&lt;br/&gt;
three years before finally falling on July 11, 1995. All men and boys over the&lt;br/&gt;
age of 15 were separated from the women, and taken off to be killed. The women&lt;br/&gt;
and children were bussed to territory held by Bosnian Muslims.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Memories of Srebrenica remain vivid for many of the survivors in St. Louis.&lt;br/&gt;
Nihad Sinanovic was 11 when he escaped the town in 1993, at the height of the&lt;br/&gt;
Bosnian siege. His father, Resid, was among thousands who set off through the&lt;br/&gt;
woods in July 1995 in an attempt to reach safety, only to be captured and&lt;br/&gt;
killed.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
"Every year it's the same," said Mr Sinanovic, who today runs a&lt;br/&gt;
successful business in St. Louis. "We meet and ask the same questions. What&lt;br/&gt;
actually happened? How come the killers are still free? It's impossible to put&lt;br/&gt;
it to rest and move on."&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Also on Sunday, at a reception in St. Louis, 210 Bosnian refugees signed a new&lt;br/&gt;
petition calling for the arrest of Radovan Karadzic and General Ratko Mladic,&lt;br/&gt;
the two former Bosnian Serb leaders held most responsible for the massacre.&lt;br/&gt;
Both men have been indicted by the International Criminal Tribunal in The&lt;br/&gt;
Hague, but remain at large.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
The arrest petition has been drawn up by the Center for Balkan Development,&lt;br/&gt;
and co-signed by The Advocacy Project, Physicians for Human Rights, the&lt;br/&gt;
Helsinki Committee for Human Rights in Serbia, and the Congress of North&lt;br/&gt;
American Bosniaks, which lobbies from Washington on behalf of grassroots&lt;br/&gt;
advocates like the St. Louis survivors.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Nihad Sinanovic was one of those who appealed for signatures on Sunday in St.&lt;br/&gt;
Louis. "Help us heal the wounds of the many relatives who lost their loved&lt;br/&gt;
ones. Help us bring the perpetrators to justice and bring closure to the&lt;br/&gt;
families," he said, to loud applause.&lt;br/&gt;
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* For media coverage of the quilt launch in St. Louis, visit&lt;br/&gt;
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/&lt;br/&gt;
story/3248D&lt;br/&gt;
74C6D4647DB862573130013FE59?OpenDocument&lt;br/&gt;
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commemorated&lt;br/&gt;
and profiles of the weavers, visit http://advocacynet.org/page/quilt&lt;br/&gt;
* To sign the arrest petition, visit&lt;br/&gt;
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/arrest_mladic_karadzic/index.html or&lt;br/&gt;
visit&lt;br/&gt;
the CBD website http://www.balkandevelopment.org/timeforjustice/&lt;br/&gt;
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http://advocacynet.org/blogs/index.php?blog=88&lt;br/&gt;
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info@advocacynet.org.&lt;br/&gt;</content:encoded><dc:subject>Mailinglist</dc:subject><dc:creator>nettime</dc:creator><dc:date>2007-07-11T12:25:05Z</dc:date></item><item><title>&lt;nettime&gt; Organic Intellectual Work: Interview with Andrew Ross</title><link>http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/2007/07/11/nettime-organic-intellectual-work-interview-with-andrew-ross.html</link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/id/2129/</guid><content:encoded xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Via: Geert Lovink&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Organic Intellectual Work&lt;br/&gt;
Interview with Andrew Ross&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
By Geert Lovink&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Does cultural studies scholar and labour activist Andrew Ross need to&lt;br/&gt;
be introduced? I became familiar with the work of U.S. American&lt;br/&gt;
researcher of Scottish decent in the early nineties when his co-edited&lt;br/&gt;
anthology Techno-Cultureand books No Respectand Strange Weatherreached&lt;br/&gt;
wide audiences. His highly readable books deal with a range of topics&lt;br/&gt;
from sweatshop labour, the creative office culture of the dotcoms,&lt;br/&gt;
middle class utopias of the Disney town Celebration to China's economic&lt;br/&gt;
culture as a global player. For outsiders, Andrew Ross might embody the&lt;br/&gt;
'celebrity' persona of academia, but he is someone I experienced as&lt;br/&gt;
modest and open, a prolific writer who is very much on top of the&lt;br/&gt;
issues. To me Andrew Ross has been a role model of how to reconcile the&lt;br/&gt;
world of High Theory with the down-to-earth work within social&lt;br/&gt;
movements, a tension that I have been struggling with since the late&lt;br/&gt;
seventies. Reading Andrew Ross makes you wonder why it is so hard to be&lt;br/&gt;
an organic intellectual after all, as Antonio Gramsci once described&lt;br/&gt;
it, a figure which is light-years away from the abstract universes of&lt;br/&gt;
the Italian autonomous theorists such as Negri, Virno and Lazzarato. No&lt;br/&gt;
esoteric knowledge of Spinoza, Tarde or Deleuze is necessary to enjoy&lt;br/&gt;
Ross. We do not read about exploitation in a moralistic manner but&lt;br/&gt;
instead obtain a deeper understanding of the complex contradictions&lt;br/&gt;
that the global work force has to deal with.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Australian post-doc researcher Melissa Gregg, whose book Affective&lt;br/&gt;
Voicesdeals with the history of (Anglo-Saxon) cultural studies,&lt;br/&gt;
includes a chapter about Andrew Ross. Gregg describes Ross as an&lt;br/&gt;
"intellectual arbiter between the academic politics of cultural studies&lt;br/&gt;
and the activist imperatives of the progressive Left." His "academic&lt;br/&gt;
activism" describes the "human cost of economic growth," thereby&lt;br/&gt;
counterbalancing the "neglect of material labour conditions." Instead&lt;br/&gt;
of fiddling around with concepts and terminologies, Ross describes the&lt;br/&gt;
"human face of economics" much like Barbara Ehrenreich's investigative&lt;br/&gt;
journalism, reaching into the category of airport non-fiction. The&lt;br/&gt;
suspicious attitude towards appropriate payment is the key obstacle to&lt;br/&gt;
an effective labourist politics among Leftist intellectuals. In the&lt;br/&gt;
case of the no collar culture "not only did the culture of willing&lt;br/&gt;
overwork severely haemorrhage any chance of a sustainable industry, but&lt;br/&gt;
investment in the cult of creativity disassociated no collar work from&lt;br/&gt;
the manual labour involved in producing the tools of their craft." In&lt;br/&gt;
the following email exchange with Andrew we focused on the topics of&lt;br/&gt;
research methodology and style of writing, the role of ethnography, the&lt;br/&gt;
question of creative labour and strategies of activism.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
GL: Suppose you were to write one of those booklets and we would&lt;br/&gt;
entitle it Letter to a Young Researcher. How would you approach this?&lt;br/&gt;
Could you tell us something about your method? Is it fair enough to say&lt;br/&gt;
that you moved on from General Theory to case studies? Clearly,&lt;br/&gt;
students need to know about both, but I have the feeling that theory is&lt;br/&gt;
a dead end street these days and that your research methodology offers&lt;br/&gt;
an alternative.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
AR: Since I came of age, intellectually and politically, in the 1970s,&lt;br/&gt;
I was a paid-up member of the Theory Generation, dutifully&lt;br/&gt;
participating in Lacan and Althusser reading groups, and the like. But&lt;br/&gt;
even then, I was rarely comfortable with the hothouse climate around&lt;br/&gt;
what you call General Theory. Even then, I was learning that theory&lt;br/&gt;
should be approached as simply a way of getting from A to B. It wasn't&lt;br/&gt;
the only way to get from A to B, nor was it always the best way, and it&lt;br/&gt;
was easy to get stuck en route with all your mental wheels spinning in&lt;br/&gt;
the air. Indeed, I saw some of the best minds of my generation--to&lt;br/&gt;
paraphrase Allen Ginsberg--vanish down that path. I'm glad I survived,&lt;br/&gt;
I've been in recovery for two decades now.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
When it comes to method--and this is what I tell my graduate&lt;br/&gt;
students--it's more important to know what A and B are. Once you have a&lt;br/&gt;
good sense of your object and the questions you want to answer, then&lt;br/&gt;
you are in a position to choose your methods--i.e. how to get from A to&lt;br/&gt;
B. In most disciplines, the method comes first, and is then applied to&lt;br/&gt;
an object. For us, it's the other way around. The questions and the&lt;br/&gt;
goals determine the methods. So, how will I answer those questions? Do&lt;br/&gt;
I need to do interviews, or conduct surveys? Do I need to visit sites,&lt;br/&gt;
or consult archives? What kind of reading do I need to do, and what is&lt;br/&gt;
the likely audience? In the program where I teach, our students are&lt;br/&gt;
trained in more than one method--ethnography, historical inquiry,&lt;br/&gt;
textual analysis, data analysis--and are encouraged to be flexible in&lt;br/&gt;
their application. They are much more likely to think of themselves as&lt;br/&gt;
investigators, undertaking case-studies, rather than being motivated by&lt;br/&gt;
general theoretical problems.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Approaching research in this manner, it's more likely that they will&lt;br/&gt;
find their own voice, or at least a voice that is uniquely theirs,&lt;br/&gt;
rather than aping the consensus voice of their discipline, or whatever&lt;br/&gt;
influential master thinker they have been weaned on. It took me several&lt;br/&gt;
years to shake off my own academic training and find a voice that I&lt;br/&gt;
felt was my own and I had to go well outside my comfort zone to achieve&lt;br/&gt;
anything. So my advice to young researchers is tailored to the goal of&lt;br/&gt;
getting them to that point much earlier than I did.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
GL: Does your move from Cultural Studies to a new form of labour&lt;br/&gt;
sociology also imply a critique of the way in which cultural studies&lt;br/&gt;
has been bogged down in studying popular culture and mainstream&lt;br/&gt;
products and services? In my experience 'cultural studies' has not&lt;br/&gt;
globalized but can increasingly be identified as an Ango-Saxon project&lt;br/&gt;
that has not broadened its reference system outside of the UK, USA and&lt;br/&gt;
Australia. It may have adopted 'French theory' but in France itself&lt;br/&gt;
cultural studies is nowhere to be seen. Now, there is nothing wrong&lt;br/&gt;
with cultural specificity and the political heritage of research&lt;br/&gt;
schools ... knowledge is always embedded in particular generations and&lt;br/&gt;
experiences of a small group of players. I know there are zillion&lt;br/&gt;
debates about the 'future of cultural studies' but could you&lt;br/&gt;
nonetheless say something about this?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
AR: To answer that question, I'd have to touch on a debate about why&lt;br/&gt;
labour was not more central to cultural studies during its heyday.&lt;br/&gt;
Indeed, some would say that a conscious effort was made to sideline&lt;br/&gt;
attention to labour. This is quite understandable if you consider how&lt;br/&gt;
the British Left, for example, was dominated by a labourist mentality&lt;br/&gt;
in the 1960s and 1970s. It was necessary to get out from under the&lt;br/&gt;
heavy weight of that mindset to appreciate that other things mattered&lt;br/&gt;
politically. I myself grew up in the industrial belt of Scotland, where&lt;br/&gt;
labourism was the air that you breathed, and so the discovery of&lt;br/&gt;
cultural politics--the fact that you could even think about culture&lt;br/&gt;
politically--came as a revelation. Naturally, there was a certain&lt;br/&gt;
degree of overcompensation involved in the cultural turn. Folks just&lt;br/&gt;
kept going further and further from the labour fold, arguing that this&lt;br/&gt;
or that sector of daily life "mattered" in ever more ingenious&lt;br/&gt;
permutations of the feminist axiom that "the personal is the&lt;br/&gt;
political." The result was that the field of political economy was&lt;br/&gt;
abandoned, to some extent, to the hardliners, who no longer had to&lt;br/&gt;
listen to the feminists, queers, cultural radicals, and ethnic identity&lt;br/&gt;
advocates, and polarization set in between the cultural justice and the&lt;br/&gt;
economic justice camps. The legacy of that split is still with&lt;br/&gt;
us--indeed it has been played out in every US election since the early&lt;br/&gt;
1990s. There's no doubt it has hampered the Left, but the division has&lt;br/&gt;
been exploited much more adroitly by the Right.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
While you may be right about the limited geographical footprint of&lt;br/&gt;
Cultural Studies as an academic discipline, I don't think these larger&lt;br/&gt;
political conflicts are confined to the Anglophone countries. They are&lt;br/&gt;
expressed in different ways in other societies--usually through the&lt;br/&gt;
repressive filter of religion or statism or ethnic sectarianism--and&lt;br/&gt;
are sometimes harder to discern, but they are no less relevant.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
In all of the hand wringing about polarization, what's neglected is the&lt;br/&gt;
work that was done--it was never really abandoned--and is still being&lt;br/&gt;
done to reconnect these two wings of social justice. I suppose that's&lt;br/&gt;
where I would place my own energies from the late 80s onwards, in areas&lt;br/&gt;
of research--science and technology, and environmentalism in books like&lt;br/&gt;
Strange Weather, The Chicago Gangster Theory of Life, and Real&lt;br/&gt;
Love--that were not at all central at the time to the main currents of&lt;br/&gt;
cultural studies. By the mid-1990s, I was being drawn into labour and&lt;br/&gt;
urban research, both of which have dictated the bulk of my research and&lt;br/&gt;
activism for the last decade or so. However, I'm not sure I would have&lt;br/&gt;
gone in that direction if it hadn't been for cultural studies. For&lt;br/&gt;
example, it was my interest in fashion consumption that took me into&lt;br/&gt;
the anti-sweatshop movement and led to the publication of No Sweatand&lt;br/&gt;
Low Pay, High Profile, and it was an interest in ecological politics&lt;br/&gt;
that motivated my field work on the New Urbanist movement in The&lt;br/&gt;
Celebration Chronicles.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
One area where all these currents re-converge is in the emergent policy&lt;br/&gt;
about the "creative economy." Here is a sector that has received a&lt;br/&gt;
massive amount of attention from government agencies and national&lt;br/&gt;
economic managers desperate for a development paradigm that will allow&lt;br/&gt;
them to compete or play catch-up in the high-skill, knowledge economy.&lt;br/&gt;
And it's all about cultural workers, once seen as completely marginal&lt;br/&gt;
to the forces of production and now increasingly central as a source of&lt;br/&gt;
potential economic value. Now there does exist an extensive body of&lt;br/&gt;
cultural studies scholarship, initiated by Tony Bennett in the&lt;br/&gt;
mid-1990s, that engaged directly with cultural policy-making, but it's&lt;br/&gt;
only recently that this tendency has moved centre-stage, and will, I&lt;br/&gt;
predict, occupy more and more of the field. In many ways, it's an angle&lt;br/&gt;
that was missing from Raymond Williams' distinction between two&lt;br/&gt;
conceptions of culture: one based on the high/low value hierarchy, and&lt;br/&gt;
the other, more anthropological understanding of culture as "way of&lt;br/&gt;
life." Neither made much room for culture as a livelihood, or cultural&lt;br/&gt;
work as labour. In Williams's day, it would have taken a remarkable act&lt;br/&gt;
of social foresight to imagine that artists, writers, and designers&lt;br/&gt;
would come to be seen, in the governmental imagination, as model&lt;br/&gt;
entrepreneurs for the new economy, and yet here we are.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Let me give you an instructive example. Back in the mid-1990s, after&lt;br/&gt;
the leadership of the AFL-CIO (American Federation of Labor and&lt;br/&gt;
Congress of Industrial Organizations)changed hands, I became involved&lt;br/&gt;
in a organization called Scholars, Artists, and Writers for Social&lt;br/&gt;
Justice (SAWSJ). It was founded, mostly by labour historians, in&lt;br/&gt;
recognition of the hope that the US labour's movement's era of&lt;br/&gt;
complicity in the Cold War was over, and that a rapprochement with&lt;br/&gt;
intellectuals was now possible. Most of the activities of SAWSJ were&lt;br/&gt;
dedicated to supporting the industrial and service unions. This was&lt;br/&gt;
entirely laudable, but it often meant ignoring the labour issues in our&lt;br/&gt;
own backyard of the knowledge economies. Even at that time, it was&lt;br/&gt;
difficult to get an audience for the view that we were not only in&lt;br/&gt;
denial about this, and that we should be alerting the labour movement&lt;br/&gt;
to the opportunities and dangers posed by the burgeoning&lt;br/&gt;
culture/creative/knowledge industries (I wrote an essay "The Mental&lt;br/&gt;
Labour Problem," which was intended to address this denial). Not long&lt;br/&gt;
after, managers and ideologues of the New Economy dramatically reshaped&lt;br/&gt;
perceptions about how value could be generated, and the labour movement&lt;br/&gt;
was left sucking dust. New media employees helped to glamorize the 24/7&lt;br/&gt;
workweek, design, art, architecture, and custom craft were embraced as&lt;br/&gt;
engines for boosting property values in the real estate boom, the&lt;br/&gt;
amateur (MyCreativity) ethic became the basis for a whole new discount&lt;br/&gt;
mode of production that exploited the cult of attention as a cheap&lt;br/&gt;
labour supply, and much, much, more along these lines.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
The only development along these lines that has really attracted trade&lt;br/&gt;
unions is in academic organizing, and largely because it offers a&lt;br/&gt;
fairly traditional opportunity to recruit new members. For sure, there&lt;br/&gt;
are individual unionists, mostly in sectors like telecommunications,&lt;br/&gt;
who are keeping up with changes in the mode of production, but the&lt;br/&gt;
labour movement, as a whole, and not just in the US, may have&lt;br/&gt;
relinquished the short-term opportunity to fight over the terms of the&lt;br/&gt;
knowledge economy. Knowledge and cultural workers are accustomed to&lt;br/&gt;
think of themselves as in the vanguard, and it will probably take a&lt;br/&gt;
generation of "proletarianization" and another big recession to&lt;br/&gt;
persuade them that collective organizing is in their long-term&lt;br/&gt;
interest. But that's no reason not to build a movement of ideas and&lt;br/&gt;
actions that will be serviceable, when that moment comes.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
GL: I read your Low Pay, High Profileas a search for new strategies in&lt;br/&gt;
activism. In your 'academic activism' you leave behind the&lt;br/&gt;
disempowering reform-or-revolution choice and try to imagine, being&lt;br/&gt;
part of a movement, where the 'global push for fair labour' can be&lt;br/&gt;
taken. Here in Amsterdam I have seen how the Clean Clothes Campaign is&lt;br/&gt;
doing this. Is it fair to say that you practice a form of 'radical&lt;br/&gt;
pragmatism'? Is there a politics of immersion? Many of us fear deep&lt;br/&gt;
engagement and try to keep the appropriation machines at a safe&lt;br/&gt;
distance. How do you gain the confidence to survive Disney's&lt;br/&gt;
Celebration, the dotcom madness, and Chinese IT culture?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
AR: "Intellectual activism" is a term we use among our students. We&lt;br/&gt;
vastly prefer it to "public intellectual" because there are very few&lt;br/&gt;
slots available on the public media spectrum at any one time, and they&lt;br/&gt;
are usually reserved for gatekeepers or single-issue political&lt;br/&gt;
advocates. For sure, activists and intellectuals function in a&lt;br/&gt;
different kind of temporality. The activist needs something to happen&lt;br/&gt;
tomorrow, the intellectual needs a slower germination of ideas. But you&lt;br/&gt;
can't have movement of action without a movement of ideas, and the&lt;br/&gt;
challenge really is to try to synchronize your thought with what's&lt;br/&gt;
happening on the ground. If you work closely, as a scholar, with a&lt;br/&gt;
justice movement, then requests will invariably be made to provide&lt;br/&gt;
tailor-made research to further the activist cause. In some instances,&lt;br/&gt;
that will be straightforward, in others it won't be so easy to provide&lt;br/&gt;
because activists generally don't want complexity, they need black and&lt;br/&gt;
white, and critical scholars are not trained to think in black and&lt;br/&gt;
white. I have certainly encountered this dilemma in my own&lt;br/&gt;
labour-oriented work, in the anti-sweatshop movement, for example,&lt;br/&gt;
where, at times it seems that the only desirable research is that which&lt;br/&gt;
corroborates the existence of corporate atrocities. But I didn't&lt;br/&gt;
experience it as a fear of "deep engagement" as you suggest, nor as a&lt;br/&gt;
fear of indulging in intellectual dishonesty.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Take the work I did in the China field as an example. I had been a&lt;br/&gt;
China-watcher for a long time, but was clearly not a sinologist.&lt;br/&gt;
Nonetheless, I figured that I may be able to produce some useful&lt;br/&gt;
research (that a sinologist, bound by disciplinary convention, perhaps&lt;br/&gt;
could not) by going there. So, too, since the AFL-CIO refuses to have&lt;br/&gt;
any official relationship with the China labour federation, there was a&lt;br/&gt;
real research gap for labour scholars and educators to fill. I was&lt;br/&gt;
familiar with all the literature on the labour-intensive export&lt;br/&gt;
factories of South China, but I could find very little about the&lt;br/&gt;
Yangtze Delta workplaces, where the lion's share of high-tech FDI was&lt;br/&gt;
beginning to flow, and most of it higher up the technology curve than&lt;br/&gt;
in South China. At that time, there was a wave of anxiety about the&lt;br/&gt;
outsourcing of high-wage, high-skill jobs to China and India, but very&lt;br/&gt;
little was known about the conditions, aspirations, and opinions of the&lt;br/&gt;
new offshore workforce employees. So I enrolled in Mandarin classes for&lt;br/&gt;
a year to give me some language mobility and took my family off to&lt;br/&gt;
Shanghai to see what I could find. A trained sinologist would probably&lt;br/&gt;
not have started out interviewing where I did--at the American Chamber&lt;br/&gt;
of Commerce, in the belly of the beast, as it were--but in fact the&lt;br/&gt;
contacts I made there helped open doors to many of the factory and&lt;br/&gt;
office workplaces where I did my research. Nor do I think that a&lt;br/&gt;
sinologist would have followed some of the leads I did since they were&lt;br/&gt;
often about explicitly transnational flows of capital, knowledge,&lt;br/&gt;
technology, personnel, and customs.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
In fact, in the year's worth of field work I did in the Yangtze Delta&lt;br/&gt;
industrial parks, I didn't come across a single researcher doing&lt;br/&gt;
anything in any of the areas I myself was pursuing--documenting the&lt;br/&gt;
regional labour market, workplace conditions, the nature and character&lt;br/&gt;
of the investments, the rate of technology transfer and knowledge&lt;br/&gt;
transfer into the industrial parks, the cultural conflicts between&lt;br/&gt;
young Chinese engineers and their foreign managers, etc. Now this is&lt;br/&gt;
the single biggest regional economy in China, and the most high-tech,&lt;br/&gt;
so it was astonishing to find no one else in the field. Even the&lt;br/&gt;
foreign journalists I got to know there rarely left their offices in&lt;br/&gt;
Shanghai--a convention, no doubt, that goes back to pre-Liberation&lt;br/&gt;
days.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
So, to get back to the gist of your question, I think the "confidence"&lt;br/&gt;
you refer to has more to do with not being bound by the conventions of&lt;br/&gt;
a discipline or a profession that tends to dictate the conduct of&lt;br/&gt;
scholars, activist, and journalists much more than we imagine. I became&lt;br/&gt;
an agnostic in that regard a long time ago. The downside of this is&lt;br/&gt;
that you have no idea who your audience will be, or that you will&lt;br/&gt;
indeed have an audience. For example, the most detailed early review of&lt;br/&gt;
my China book was by George Gilder, in his newsletter for high-tech&lt;br/&gt;
investors. He mined it for information about the performance of Chinese&lt;br/&gt;
tech companies that would be especially useful to his readers. Not&lt;br/&gt;
exactly the kind of audience I had anticipated!&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
GL: How important is storytelling in your work and is it something that&lt;br/&gt;
we, cultural theorists, can learn? I find this skill more difficult to&lt;br/&gt;
practice, and teach, compared to the relatively easy act of summarizing&lt;br/&gt;
the theory of canon of the day, now Agamben and Badiou, in the past&lt;br/&gt;
Derrida and Foucault, and Althusser and Gramsci in the early 1980s. I&lt;br/&gt;
see your recent work in the critical anthropology tradition. Action&lt;br/&gt;
research also had a particular mix of observation and active&lt;br/&gt;
participation. Is ethnography something we should look into or do we&lt;br/&gt;
then again run the risk of turning it into a theory religion?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
AR: You are right, it is not easy to teach, and largely because it is&lt;br/&gt;
so experiential. I was trained first as a textual analyst, and then as&lt;br/&gt;
a theorist, so I developed skills as a close reader and a conceptual&lt;br/&gt;
thinker. What this meant was that I was a pretty bad listener. I grew&lt;br/&gt;
up in a storytelling, working class culture in Scotland, but my&lt;br/&gt;
academic training had taught me to distrust all of that, in fact, to&lt;br/&gt;
distrust language tout court. Over time, and as I developed my own&lt;br/&gt;
ethnographic techniques, I had to re-learn how to listen to other&lt;br/&gt;
people's stories, and to be accountable to these people when I used&lt;br/&gt;
their stories for my own purposes. So listening was important. As for&lt;br/&gt;
telling the stories, the genre of investigative journalism has probably&lt;br/&gt;
been as useful to me as critical anthropology. When anthropologists are&lt;br/&gt;
in the field, they are often competing with journalists (though not on&lt;br/&gt;
deadlines) but they rarely acknowledge journalistic narrative. In the&lt;br/&gt;
full-length ethnographies I have done--in new media companies, in&lt;br/&gt;
Celebration, and in China--I was competing directly with other&lt;br/&gt;
journalists for stories insofar as my informants were often used to&lt;br/&gt;
talking to journalists. Being a scholar was an advantage in those&lt;br/&gt;
situations because people trust you more with their stories and&lt;br/&gt;
confidence.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
As for ethnography becoming a religion, I don't see that happening. To&lt;br/&gt;
go back to what I said at the outset, it's a method for getting from A&lt;br/&gt;
to B, but it's not the only way, nor is it always the best way. You&lt;br/&gt;
have to choose your methods based on your goals. These days,&lt;br/&gt;
ethnography feels more honest to me than the kind of armchair criticism&lt;br/&gt;
that I started out doing in the 1980s, but I still do certain kinds of&lt;br/&gt;
writing that don't entail getting out of my seat.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
GL: Activist campaigning is becoming more and more associated with&lt;br/&gt;
'tactical media', social networking and so on. Is this justified? Do&lt;br/&gt;
you think that a better understanding of Web 2.0 and new media would&lt;br/&gt;
alter activism as is often claimed? As you know my work is associated&lt;br/&gt;
with the 'tactical media' term but I have often made clear that (new)&lt;br/&gt;
media cannot create social movements out of nothing. A more effective&lt;br/&gt;
way of using cell phones and the Net is not in itself a guarantee that&lt;br/&gt;
the real existing discontent in global capitalism will flip into&lt;br/&gt;
organized resistance or even protest.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
AR: I agree, these days it is necessary but not sufficient for social&lt;br/&gt;
movements to be tech savvy. The tactics for outwitting the oppressor&lt;br/&gt;
have to be continually updated, and that is the job of movement&lt;br/&gt;
tacticians, but the "sufficient conditions" for change haven't altered&lt;br/&gt;
appreciably. You need a critical mass of popular sentiment, you need a&lt;br/&gt;
significant fraction of elites to break with their class station and&lt;br/&gt;
cross over, and you need an effective formula for capturing media&lt;br/&gt;
attention. These days, most social justice movements have about six or&lt;br/&gt;
seven years to make their mark before a) activists burn out or branch&lt;br/&gt;
off, b) the formula exhausts its efficacy, c) the enemy coopts public&lt;br/&gt;
attention. The anti-sweatshop movement was a good example; the formula&lt;br/&gt;
of shaming the brand was like a narcotic for the media, "Nike&lt;br/&gt;
sweatshops" became a household phrase, and elite guilt was&lt;br/&gt;
appropriately mobilized. It took the lavishly funded efforts of&lt;br/&gt;
"corporate social responsibility" several years to convince the public&lt;br/&gt;
that the big garment companies had somehow "fixed" the problem and that&lt;br/&gt;
it was OK to go out and buy Gap clothing again. In the interim, I think&lt;br/&gt;
we achieved quite a lot. At the very least, the trading rules of the&lt;br/&gt;
global economy are now contested in the public eye, rather than written&lt;br/&gt;
in secret by unelected WTO officials, and consciousness-raising about&lt;br/&gt;
sweatshops contributed, in no small part, to that shift in the rules of&lt;br/&gt;
play.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
That said, there is one key area of activism in which tactical media&lt;br/&gt;
has become particularly important, and that is in the copyfight over&lt;br/&gt;
intellectual property. The corporate rush to proprietize knowledge is&lt;br/&gt;
surely one of the biggest acts of theft in centuries, and new media&lt;br/&gt;
activists have a frontline role to play, because the tactical tools&lt;br/&gt;
they use are, more often than not, the technologies at play in the&lt;br/&gt;
property grab. Disciplining rogue users (for the downloading of&lt;br/&gt;
unauthorized content) is just the most highly publicized face of the&lt;br/&gt;
massive effort of capital-owners to administer an effective division of&lt;br/&gt;
labour within the knowledge industries. That effort increasingly&lt;br/&gt;
depends upon control over not only the authorized use of technologies,&lt;br/&gt;
but also the IP inside employee's heads. But it's not just the&lt;br/&gt;
high-tech employees that are suspect. The new property grabbers are in&lt;br/&gt;
a running battle with the ever-proficient hackers of the technocratic&lt;br/&gt;
fraternity, and now they have to contend with a small army of&lt;br/&gt;
legally-minded and tech-savvy advocates of the information commons.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
As I see it, this contest is very much an elite "copyfight" between&lt;br/&gt;
capital-owner monopolists and the labour aristocracy of the digitariat&lt;br/&gt;
(a dominated fraction of the dominant class, as Pierre Bourdieu once&lt;br/&gt;
described intellectuals) struggling to preserve and extend their&lt;br/&gt;
high-skill interests. The history of shareware and its maturation into&lt;br/&gt;
free software/open source can be seen as the narrative of a distinctive&lt;br/&gt;
class fraction--a thwarted technocratic elite whose libertarian world&lt;br/&gt;
view butts up against the established proprietary interests of&lt;br/&gt;
capital-owners. While they see their knowledge and expertise generating&lt;br/&gt;
wealth, they chafe at their lack of control over the property assets.&lt;br/&gt;
Their willingness to work against the proprietary IP regime is directly&lt;br/&gt;
linked to their entrepreneurial-artisanal instincts, but, more&lt;br/&gt;
importantly, it is a power-test of their capacity to act upon the&lt;br/&gt;
world. The class traitors in their midst are engineer innovators who go&lt;br/&gt;
over to the dark Gatesian side of IP monopoly enforcement. So, too, the&lt;br/&gt;
mutualist ethos of the FLOSS communities is very much underpinned by&lt;br/&gt;
the confidence of members that their expertise will keep them on the&lt;br/&gt;
upside of the technology curve that protects the best and brightest&lt;br/&gt;
from proletarianization.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
What I don't see is all that much attention to those less-skilled who&lt;br/&gt;
are further down the entitlement hierarchy, who are not direct&lt;br/&gt;
participants in this power struggle, and whose prospects in the chain&lt;br/&gt;
of production do not extend to the profile of the master-craftsman&lt;br/&gt;
straining at the corporate leash. They are much more distant from the&lt;br/&gt;
rewards of authorship, and are less likely to feel personally&lt;br/&gt;
disrespected when IP rights are expropriated from above. So how do the&lt;br/&gt;
interests of these below-the-line workers get represented in the&lt;br/&gt;
copyfight? I'd like to see new media tacticians think more about&lt;br/&gt;
sustainable income models for everyone rather than focus primarily on&lt;br/&gt;
the livelihoods of creatives or high-skill knowledge workers.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
GL: Surprisingly, in the new media sector, young professionals are&lt;br/&gt;
earning less and less while their working conditions aren't that great&lt;br/&gt;
either. This is one of the outcomes of Rosalind Gill and Daniella van&lt;br/&gt;
Daemon's case study on the Amsterdam web designers. It's important here&lt;br/&gt;
to add another level that sufficiently describes freedom and&lt;br/&gt;
subjectivity of the actors involved. People are passionate about the&lt;br/&gt;
challenges that new media create. In what ways could we describe such a&lt;br/&gt;
paradoxical circumstance?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
AR: The Amsterdam study is interesting, though these results don't&lt;br/&gt;
surprise me. The labour market for new media employees was at its&lt;br/&gt;
rosiest at the height of the New Economy years---there was a limited&lt;br/&gt;
labour supply, the new entrants had a monopoly on skills and applied&lt;br/&gt;
knowledge, and demand for them was fierce. Under normal circumstances,&lt;br/&gt;
conditions and pay scales could be expected to deteriorate from that&lt;br/&gt;
high. But the impact of outsourcing, since 2001, has accelerated that&lt;br/&gt;
decline, if not in terms of actual jobs transferred overseas, then as a&lt;br/&gt;
result of the general climate of insecurity that has been ushered into&lt;br/&gt;
white collar and no collar workplaces by the imminent threat of&lt;br/&gt;
"knowledge transfer." The house motto of Razorfish in the boom years&lt;br/&gt;
used to be "Whatever can be digital, will be." It was by no means easy&lt;br/&gt;
to predict what came to pass all too quickly as "whatever can be&lt;br/&gt;
outsourced, will be." For sure, the offshore transfers started out in&lt;br/&gt;
coding and in the more routine sectors, but they moved up into design&lt;br/&gt;
and web development fairly rapidly. As far as jobs in the global North&lt;br/&gt;
goes, there's no reason not to expect that the situation will soon&lt;br/&gt;
resemble the garment industry, with the most specialized, custom work&lt;br/&gt;
remaining onshore, perhaps along with a less formal sector of sweated&lt;br/&gt;
or intern work needed for fast turnaround. Everything else will be done&lt;br/&gt;
overseas.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
As for on-the-job passion and enthusiasm, it's an integral part of the&lt;br/&gt;
job profile, attested to through thick and thin. It was this devotion&lt;br/&gt;
that got me interested in studying new media workplaces in the first&lt;br/&gt;
place, since it's quite uncommon, in the history of modern work, to&lt;br/&gt;
hear employees express this kind of zeal around their jobs. My study,&lt;br/&gt;
in No-Collar, turned into an effort to describe and diagnose the&lt;br/&gt;
conditions of "self-exploitation" that resulted. One of my informants&lt;br/&gt;
put it most succinctly when she said she was given "work that you just&lt;br/&gt;
couldn't help doing," and in a workplace from which the very last drops&lt;br/&gt;
of alienation had been squeezed. Nowadays, every knowledge industry&lt;br/&gt;
employer recognizes the benefits of this kind of ideal employee, who is&lt;br/&gt;
turned on by the challenge of risk, accustomed to sacrifice (long&lt;br/&gt;
hours) in pursuit of gratification, and willing to trade his or her&lt;br/&gt;
most free time and free thoughts in return for the gifts of mobility&lt;br/&gt;
and autonomy. Folks in the arts have long lived with this sacrificial&lt;br/&gt;
mentality, and know a thing or two about the insecurity associated with&lt;br/&gt;
it. So, too, gearheads, from the days of ham radio onwards, are&lt;br/&gt;
familiar with the devotional cults that a machine can inspire. But&lt;br/&gt;
neither cohort has been prepared for the consequences wrought by the&lt;br/&gt;
rapid industrialization of their respective crafts and hobbies. The&lt;br/&gt;
effort to industrialize custom creativity is a primary goal of&lt;br/&gt;
capitalist production today, right now.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
I suppose I would say the same of the academic sector, with the proviso&lt;br/&gt;
that academics are so fond of their siege mentality that they can only&lt;br/&gt;
see their workplaces being invaded by corporate logic or industrial&lt;br/&gt;
process. They don't see that the traffic goes in both directions, they&lt;br/&gt;
know so little about the corporate world that they can't see how the&lt;br/&gt;
mentality and customs of academic life are being transplanted into&lt;br/&gt;
knowledge firms, whose research is increasingly conducted along similar&lt;br/&gt;
lines. The truth of the matter is we are living through the formative&lt;br/&gt;
stages of a mode of production marked by a quasi-convergence of the&lt;br/&gt;
academy and the knowledge corporation. Neither is what it used to be;&lt;br/&gt;
both are mutating into new species that share and trade many&lt;br/&gt;
characteristics, and these changes are part and parcel of the economic&lt;br/&gt;
environment in which they function.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
GL: You touched on the "creative economy." As you know, we've been&lt;br/&gt;
dealing with this in the MyCreativity project that my institute in&lt;br/&gt;
Amsterdam co-initiated. What should the critical research in this field&lt;br/&gt;
look into? There is a call to go beyond the hype bashing and look into&lt;br/&gt;
the labour precarity issue. Still, the consensus-driven hegemony of&lt;br/&gt;
business consultants seems strong and uncontested. What work could be&lt;br/&gt;
done to open the field and make space for other voices and practices?&lt;br/&gt;
Are there ways to obtain cultural hegemony these days?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
AR: That's a good question, and should be at the heart of anyone&lt;br/&gt;
interested in a sustainable job economy. It's not all that productive&lt;br/&gt;
to scoff at policy initiatives that might just be capable of generating&lt;br/&gt;
a better deal for creative labour. As I see it, critical research ought&lt;br/&gt;
to be doing what governments are not, and that is coming up with&lt;br/&gt;
qualitative profiles of what a "good" creative job should look like,&lt;br/&gt;
based on ethnographic methods. Currently, all we have are productivity&lt;br/&gt;
and GDP statistics, on the government side, and, on the other side, a&lt;br/&gt;
cumulative pile of scepticism based on the well-known perils of&lt;br/&gt;
precarity [check with Andrew, who had 'precocity'] that afflict&lt;br/&gt;
creative work, dating back to the rise of culture markets in the late&lt;br/&gt;
eighteenth century. I have yet to see a "mapping" of the creative&lt;br/&gt;
sector that includes factors relating to the quality of work life. It&lt;br/&gt;
wasn't that long ago, in the 1970s, in response to the so-called&lt;br/&gt;
"revolt against work," that governments actively championed "quality of&lt;br/&gt;
work life." Of course, corporations came up with their own versions of&lt;br/&gt;
"innovative" alternatives to the humdrum routines of standard&lt;br/&gt;
industrial employment, but the hunger for mentally challenging work in&lt;br/&gt;
a secure workplace has undergirded and outlived all the management fads&lt;br/&gt;
that followed.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
For those with an appetite for a dialogue with the policy-makers, I'd&lt;br/&gt;
say that the qualitative research about good jobs is a plausible way to&lt;br/&gt;
go (and I'm talking about fully-loaded jobs, not simply work&lt;br/&gt;
opportunities). It wouldn't take all that much to come up with some&lt;br/&gt;
proposals for guidelines, if not outright guarantees, about income and&lt;br/&gt;
security, based on that kind of research. The goal would be to offer a&lt;br/&gt;
sustainable alternative to the IP jackpot economy that currently drives&lt;br/&gt;
the consultants' world-view. I'm not sure if the result would be what&lt;br/&gt;
you would call cultural hegemony, but if the challenge to existing&lt;br/&gt;
hegemony is going to draw on labour power in any way then it's in our&lt;br/&gt;
interest to ensure that there will be a robust employment sector there&lt;br/&gt;
to provide heft and volume to these challenges. Clearly, the strategies&lt;br/&gt;
for organizing have to be re-thought in ever more ingenious ways, but&lt;br/&gt;
there are no good substitutes for organizing, as far as I can see.&lt;br/&gt;
Tactics like culture jamming or brand busting have their uses, and they&lt;br/&gt;
have served as appropriate tools, but you can't give up on the power of&lt;br/&gt;
numbers.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
(edited by Ned Rossiter)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;</content:encoded><dc:subject>Mailinglist</dc:subject><dc:creator>nettime</dc:creator><dc:date>2007-07-11T12:25:02Z</dc:date></item><item><title>&lt;nettime&gt; Video Vortex: Call for Theory</title><link>http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/2007/07/10/nettime-video-vortex-call-for-theory.html</link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/id/2126/</guid><content:encoded xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Via: Institute of Network Cultures&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Call for Theory: Video Vortex&lt;br/&gt;
International Conference&lt;br/&gt;
Date: 18-19 January, 2008 (new date!)&lt;br/&gt;
Location: POSTCS 11, Amsterdam&lt;br/&gt;
www.networkcultures.org/videovortex&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Organized by: Institute of Network Cultures, Amsterdam Polytechnic,&lt;br/&gt;
HvA Interactive Media.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Deadline for submission of abstract (500-1000 words) and biography&lt;br/&gt;
(100 words): August 14, 2007.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Submit to: info@networkcultures.org&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Reply date: September 7, 2007.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Further inquiries:&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Sabine Niederer&lt;br/&gt;
Institute of Network Cultures&lt;br/&gt;
Rhijnspoorplein 1&lt;br/&gt;
NL-1091 GC Amsterdam&lt;br/&gt;
The Netherlands&lt;br/&gt;
t: (+31) 20-595 18 66&lt;br/&gt;
f: (+31) 20-595 18 40&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Suggested topics:&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
- database theory&lt;br/&gt;
- software studies&lt;br/&gt;
- online video analysis&lt;br/&gt;
- YouTube criticism&lt;br/&gt;
- alternative platforms/open standards&lt;br/&gt;
- theory of participatory culture&lt;br/&gt;
- collaboratory data generation&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Video Vortex: general introduction&lt;br/&gt;
In response to the increasing potential for video to become a&lt;br/&gt;
significant form of personal media on the Internet, this conference&lt;br/&gt;
examines the key issues that are emerging around the independent&lt;br/&gt;
production and distribution of online video content. What are artists&lt;br/&gt;
and activists responses to the popularity of user-generated content&lt;br/&gt;
websites? Is corporate backlash eminent?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
After years of talk about digital conversions and crossmedia&lt;br/&gt;
platforms we are now witnessing the merger of the Internet and&lt;br/&gt;
television at a pace that no one predicted. For the baby boom&lt;br/&gt;
generation, that currently forms the film and television&lt;br/&gt;
establishment, the media organizations and conglomerates, this&lt;br/&gt;
unfolds as a complete nightmare. Not only because of copyright issues&lt;br/&gt;
but increasingly due to the shift of audience to vlogging and video-&lt;br/&gt;
sharing websites as part of the development of a broader&lt;br/&gt;
participatory culture.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
The opening night will feature live acts, performances and lectures&lt;br/&gt;
under the banner of video slamming. We will trace the history from&lt;br/&gt;
short film to one-minute videos to the first experiments with&lt;br/&gt;
streaming media and online video, along with exploring the way VJs&lt;br/&gt;
and media artists are accessing and using online archives.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
The Video Vortex conference aims to contextualize these latest&lt;br/&gt;
developments through presenting continuities and discontinuities in&lt;br/&gt;
the artistic, activist and mainstream perspective of the last few&lt;br/&gt;
decades. Unlike the way online video presents itself as the latest&lt;br/&gt;
and greatest, there are long threads to be woven into the history of&lt;br/&gt;
visual art, cinema and documentary production. The rise of the&lt;br/&gt;
database as the dominant form of storing and accessing cultural&lt;br/&gt;
artifacts has a rich tradition that still needs to be explored.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
The conference aims to raise the following questions:&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
How are people utilizing the potential to independently produce and&lt;br/&gt;
distribute independent video content on the Internet?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
What are the alternatives to the proprietary standards currently&lt;br/&gt;
being developed?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
What are the commercial objectives that mass media is imposing on&lt;br/&gt;
user-generated content and video-sharing databases?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
What is the underlying economics of online video in the age of&lt;br/&gt;
unlimited uploads?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
How autonomous are vloggers within the broader domain of mass media?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
How are cinema, television and video art being affected by the&lt;br/&gt;
development of a ubiquitous online video practice?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
What type of aesthetic and narrative issues does the database pose&lt;br/&gt;
for online video practice?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Conference website: www.networkcultures.org/videovortex&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Discussion list: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/&lt;br/&gt;
videovortex_listcultures.org&lt;br/&gt;
This list is meant for all those interested in the topic, and will&lt;br/&gt;
continue after the event in early 2008.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Institute of Network Cultures&lt;br/&gt;
info@networkcultures.org&lt;br/&gt;
t: +31205951866&lt;br/&gt;
f: +3165951840&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;</content:encoded><dc:subject>Mailinglist</dc:subject><dc:creator>nettime</dc:creator><dc:date>2007-07-10T13:08:01Z</dc:date></item><item><title>Re: &lt;nettime&gt; Virtual Dreams, Real Politics</title><link>http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/2007/07/10/re-nettime-virtual-dreams-real-politics.html</link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/id/2123/</guid><content:encoded xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Via: carl guderian&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Attention conservation notice: this is a rant.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Oh noes, the ideology-free Internet turns out to be not only a&lt;br/&gt;
military project, but specifically an ideological reaction to&lt;br/&gt;
CyberCommunists plotting Red revolution (apologies to Velvet Acid&lt;br/&gt;
Christ) and not just a defense against atomic attack. Embarrassing&lt;br/&gt;
for Californian cyber-hippies, thinking themselves "post-ideological"&lt;br/&gt;
libertarians, already downplaying the internet's military (subsidy)&lt;br/&gt;
antecedents, only to be further tagged with anti-Communist dogma.&lt;br/&gt;
Gentlemen, gentlemen! We must not allow...a knowledge gap! An RFC&lt;br/&gt;
specifying IP packet headers that spelled out "In God We Trust" in&lt;br/&gt;
hex would just be icing on the cake, wouldn't it? Hard to upload yer&lt;br/&gt;
consciousness with all that baggage. The Singularity just receded&lt;br/&gt;
further into the horizon. As the Soup Nazi might have said, no cyber-&lt;br/&gt;
transcendence for *you.*&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Seriously, if the Interweb has accommodated local regimes (China,&lt;br/&gt;
Bush's America) more often than it's transformed them (erm...), you&lt;br/&gt;
have to wonder just how big a threat an internet would really have&lt;br/&gt;
been to the Soviet system. If Manuel Castells is right that the&lt;br/&gt;
Soviet system had no real pipeline between military technology and&lt;br/&gt;
the consumer market like in the US, then a Soviet internet could have&lt;br/&gt;
been limited, like the real internet of the 1970s and 1980s (or the&lt;br/&gt;
Iraqi internet in the 1990s)--minimal, with e-mail addresses with&lt;br/&gt;
bangs (!'s), a few newsgroups, some Gopher and Archie sites). It&lt;br/&gt;
could have had a moderating, not a revolutionary effect, on the USSR.&lt;br/&gt;
There was a tiny Soviet internet, registered as .su in 1990 .&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
People make a big deal of the Fax Effect in stopping the August 1991&lt;br/&gt;
attempt to stop Perestroika and bring back the Brezhnev 1970s, as if&lt;br/&gt;
there's some sort of historical inevitability to communications-&lt;br/&gt;
driven revolutions. But coups are more contingent than people think.&lt;br/&gt;
Because they succeeded, people think they would always succeed. The&lt;br/&gt;
1953 Iran coup, for example, almost collapsed. The abortive&lt;br/&gt;
Venezuelan CIA-sponsored coup certainly did. The Soviet plotters were&lt;br/&gt;
mounting yesterday's (re)coup, like Khruschev and Zhukov shut down&lt;br/&gt;
Beria's power grab in 1953. But these Great Patriotic War vets didn't&lt;br/&gt;
see how the USSR had changed, had become collectively more&lt;br/&gt;
intelligent since the 1970s and certainly since the 1940s.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
But going back to the 1960s, suppose the Soviet bureaucrats hadn't&lt;br/&gt;
lost their nerve...GosNet 1967! On the 50th anniversary of the&lt;br/&gt;
Revolution, Socialism scores another triumph on the wires like it did&lt;br/&gt;
in space 10 years ago! Academicians swapping recipes and Beatles&lt;br/&gt;
guitar chords in the 1970s beef up the technocratic class that came&lt;br/&gt;
up in the 1980s. GosNet 1987 connects the democratic people's&lt;br/&gt;
republics of Eastern Europe to Africa to the Middle East to Cuba! In&lt;br/&gt;
the USSR, perestroika comes but the Soviet Union continues, Berlin&lt;br/&gt;
Wall gone, sure, maybe devolving to a Soviet Confederation, a sort of&lt;br/&gt;
Yugoslavic Eastern Europe, soldiering on in the name of Marxist-&lt;br/&gt;
Leninism, a better place to live and denying Reaganite triumphalists&lt;br/&gt;
the spectacular victory of capitalism over the Communism in our&lt;br/&gt;
timeline.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Dare I hope for a new sci-fi / slipstream genre: Commiepunk?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Carl&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
On 9-jul-2007, at 17:01, richard@imaginaryfutures.net wrote:&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt; Virtual Dreams, Real Politics&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt; http://www.imaginaryfutures.net/&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt; http://www.opendemocracy.net/globalisation/visions_reflections/&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt; virtual_politics&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt; ?What are we fighting Communism for? We are the most Communist people&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt; in world history.?&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt; - Marshall McLuhan, 1969.&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt; In 1961, at its 22nd Congress, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt; formally adopted the goal of spreading the benefits of computerisation&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt; across the whole economy. Over the next two decades, the information&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;lt;...&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;</content:encoded><dc:subject>Mailinglist</dc:subject><dc:creator>nettime</dc:creator><dc:date>2007-07-10T10:24:06Z</dc:date></item><item><title>Re: &lt;nettime&gt; We are negative</title><link>http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/2007/07/10/re-nettime-we-are-negative.html</link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/id/2120/</guid><content:encoded xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Via: Eric Kluitenberg&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
hi,&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Interesting manifesto on negation as a resistant strategy - but there&lt;br/&gt;
is one sentence that really puzzles me., and I hope I got it wrong....&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
On Jun 23, 2007, at 15:11, Jakob Jakobsen wrote:&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt; A bit late but anyways, here is a flyer text that circulated in Copenhagen at&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt; MayDay reflecting a political consequence of the unrest in March in the city&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt; of the Little Mermaid.&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt; We are Negative (...) But it is possible to discourage the state and break&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt; its will. This has happened many times throughout history, it is happening in&lt;br/&gt;
&amp;gt; Iraq today and it can happen here.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Do you actually propose an Iraq type of 'insurgency' in Denmark??&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
What do you mean here? Really - let's not be naive - there is&lt;br/&gt;
speculation that a lot of the conflict in Iraq is stirred up to&lt;br/&gt;
create an opaque situation in which the ownership relations of vital&lt;br/&gt;
resources in the country, contracting, access rights, distribution&lt;br/&gt;
arrangements can be restructured in a manner beneficial to certain&lt;br/&gt;
larger actors who are pursuing strategic objectives, and who actually&lt;br/&gt;
benefit from continued social unrest, chaos and civil-war conditions&lt;br/&gt;
(let's call them the 'Halliburton-type actors' for now, although&lt;br/&gt;
there might very well be more than one actor, and quite likely also&lt;br/&gt;
more than one agenda / interest pursued - the problem is that we (the&lt;br/&gt;
'general public') just don't know...).&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
So, anyway I hope I got it wrong and that you are looking for a less&lt;br/&gt;
violent and opaque solution...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
bests,&lt;br/&gt;
eric&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;</content:encoded><dc:subject>Mailinglist</dc:subject><dc:creator>nettime</dc:creator><dc:date>2007-07-10T10:24:04Z</dc:date></item><item><title>&lt;nettime&gt; I whichever roommate</title><link>http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/2007/07/10/nettime-i-whichever-roommate.html</link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/id/2117/</guid><content:encoded xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Via: "nettime's_spam_kr!k!t"&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
[orig From: "Tsharpursville fountaintown" ]&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
occasion to refer more particularly to this library in the next chapter.&lt;br/&gt;
prevented the valley of the Nile from having been, like other fertile him&lt;br/&gt;
immensely corpulent in body, so that he looked more like a monster level, and&lt;br/&gt;
as the evaporation from it is not sufficient to produce rain, plains, or from&lt;br/&gt;
higher latitudes to lower, or if, among the various such a case as this, after&lt;br/&gt;
all, in some sense, only a sort of substitute presenting on its surface the&lt;br/&gt;
most enchanting pictures of fertility, Of course, the district of St.&lt;br/&gt;
Petersburg, with its icy winter, its low romantic history we see this passion&lt;br/&gt;
portrayed with the most complete different regions. In the northern part of&lt;br/&gt;
South America, where the land In accordance with these principles, we observe&lt;br/&gt;
that, while the most of life. It does very little, therefore, to relieve the&lt;br/&gt;
monotonous other Persian provinces, to his own dominions. At the division of&lt;br/&gt;
daughter, that she should have Alexander instead of Aridaeus for a the&lt;br/&gt;
necessity, or excluded by their poverty and degradation from the earnestness&lt;br/&gt;
with which he espoused her sister's cause, and the interest formidable broke&lt;br/&gt;
out, that he fled from the country. In fact he barely continuance. It was for&lt;br/&gt;
the interest of all branches of the royal line rallied around Cleopatra, and&lt;br/&gt;
called upon her to take the crown. She did aversion to the monster, had become,&lt;br/&gt;
at the period of her husband's between them, and all Syria was suffering from&lt;br/&gt;
the ravages of their offered his daughter to Philip as the wife of one of his&lt;br/&gt;
sons named by Nature herself for the special possession of man. She herself&lt;br/&gt;
seems commenced a reign which continued, in great prosperity and splendor, for&lt;br/&gt;
death, as great a monster of ambition, selfishness, and cruelty as he. There&lt;br/&gt;
were two princes of Syria, a country lying northeast of the the mountain sides;&lt;br/&gt;
the valleys are deluged; plains turn into morasses,&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;</content:encoded><dc:subject>Mailinglist</dc:subject><dc:creator>nettime</dc:creator><dc:date>2007-07-10T10:24:02Z</dc:date></item><item><title>&lt;nettime&gt; Virtual Dreams, Real Politics</title><link>http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/2007/07/09/nettime-virtual-dreams-real-politics.html</link><guid isPermaLink="false">http://nettime.freeflux.net/blog/archive/id/2114/</guid><content:encoded xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Virtual Dreams, Real Politics&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
http://www.imaginaryfutures.net/&lt;br/&gt;
http://www.opendemocracy.net/globalisation/visions_reflections/virtual_politics&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
?What are we fighting Communism for? We are the most Communist people&lt;br/&gt;
in world history.?&lt;br/&gt;
- Marshall McLuhan, 1969.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
In 1961, at its 22nd Congress, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union&lt;br/&gt;
formally adopted the goal of spreading the benefits of computerisation&lt;br/&gt;
across the whole economy. Over the next two decades, the information&lt;br/&gt;
technologies being developed within the Russia?s research laboratories&lt;br/&gt;
were going to create a socialist paradise. Ever since the 1917&lt;br/&gt;
Revolution, totalitarian Communists with a big C had drawn ideological&lt;br/&gt;
sustenance from their self-proclaimed role as the vanguard of&lt;br/&gt;
proletarian communism with a small c. Under Stalin, the horrors of&lt;br/&gt;
forced industrialisation were sold to the Russian population as&lt;br/&gt;
premonitions of the promised land of socialism. Ironically, it was the&lt;br/&gt;
successful completion of this task which posed a potentially fatal&lt;br/&gt;
existential dilemma for the totalitarian system. Having successfully&lt;br/&gt;
identified communism with the factory, the Communist Party was now&lt;br/&gt;
making itself obsolete. According to its reformist faction, the&lt;br/&gt;
vanguard had to move on to tackling the tasks of the next stage of its&lt;br/&gt;
world-historical mission: building the ?Unified Information Network?.&lt;br/&gt;
Computers should be placed in every factory, office, shop and&lt;br/&gt;
educational institution. In this Russian vision of the Net, two-way&lt;br/&gt;
feedback between producers and consumers would calculate the correct&lt;br/&gt;
distribution of labour and resources which most efficiently satisfied&lt;br/&gt;
all of the different needs of society. Even better, this technological&lt;br/&gt;
revolution also promised to democratise an undemocratic society. In&lt;br/&gt;
his leader?s speech at the 22nd Congress, Khrushchev assured his&lt;br/&gt;
audience that - after decades of purges, wars, corruption and&lt;br/&gt;
austerity - the promised land was within sight. By the 1980s at the&lt;br/&gt;
latest, the inhabitants of the Russian empire would be enjoying all&lt;br/&gt;
the wonders of cybernetic communism.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Across the Atlantic, the CIA had watched the rise to power of the&lt;br/&gt;
post-industrial reformers in the East with growing concern. Embracing&lt;br/&gt;
their opponents? analysis, its analysts warned the US government that&lt;br/&gt;
the technological race to develop the Net was becoming the key contest&lt;br/&gt;
which would decide which superpower would lead humanity into the&lt;br/&gt;
future. Back in 1957, America had suffered a major setback in the&lt;br/&gt;
propaganda struggle when its Cold War enemy succeeded in launching the&lt;br/&gt;
first satellite into space. Determined to prevent any repetition of&lt;br/&gt;
this humiliation, the US government had quickly set up ARPA: the&lt;br/&gt;
Advanced Research Projects Agency. Next time, America was going to win&lt;br/&gt;
the hi-tech race. Responding to the CIA?s briefings, the Kennedy&lt;br/&gt;
administration sent ARPA into battle against the cybernetic Communist&lt;br/&gt;
enemy. Bringing together the top scientists in the field, the agency&lt;br/&gt;
coordinated and funded an ambitious programme of research into&lt;br/&gt;
computer-mediated-communications. In 1969, overtaking the Russian&lt;br/&gt;
opposition, its team created the appropriately-named first-ever&lt;br/&gt;
iteration of the Net: ARPANET.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
From the outset, the US government was convinced that this contest&lt;br/&gt;
was much more than a test of scientific virility. The two superpowers&lt;br/&gt;
were competing not only to develop new technologies, but also, more&lt;br/&gt;
importantly, to decide which side had the most advanced social system.&lt;br/&gt;
In 1964, a multi-disciplinary team of intellectuals led by Daniel Bell&lt;br/&gt;
was given a large grant to invent the Anti-Communist vision of the&lt;br/&gt;
non-communist future: The Commission on the Year 2000. Luckily, these&lt;br/&gt;
experts were able to find exactly what they were looking for in&lt;br/&gt;
Marshall McLuhan?s bestselling book Understanding Media. Just like&lt;br/&gt;
Marx, this prophet had also foreseen that the next stage of modernity&lt;br/&gt;
would sweep away the most disagreeable manifestations of capitalism:&lt;br/&gt;
national rivalries, industrial exploitation and social alienation. As&lt;br/&gt;
in proletarian communism with a small c, peace, prosperity and harmony&lt;br/&gt;
would reign in the global village. What made McLuhan so much more&lt;br/&gt;
attractive than Marx was that the knowledge elite ? not the&lt;br/&gt;
proletariat - was the maker of history.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
In 1966, three years before its first hosts were connected, the Bell&lt;br/&gt;
commission persuaded itself that the arrival of the Net utopia was&lt;br/&gt;
imminent. Just as McLuhan had foreseen, the limitations of&lt;br/&gt;
industrialism were about to be overcome by the wondrous technologies&lt;br/&gt;
of the information society. Best of all, 1960s America was already&lt;br/&gt;
entering into this post-capitalist future. J.C.R. Licklider ? the&lt;br/&gt;
founder of ARPA?s project to build the Net - had long been arguing&lt;br/&gt;
that the primary purpose of computer-mediated-communications was&lt;br/&gt;
facilitating the idiosyncratic working methods of the scientific&lt;br/&gt;
community. Instead of trading information with each other like the&lt;br/&gt;
overwhelming majority of cultural producers, academics collaborate by&lt;br/&gt;
sharing knowledge. Promotion and prestige depends upon contributing&lt;br/&gt;
articles to journals, presenting papers at conferences and&lt;br/&gt;
distributing findings for peer review. Although deeply enmeshed with&lt;br/&gt;
the state and corporate hierarchies of the USA, this communistic&lt;br/&gt;
method of advancing knowledge had proved its worth in both the natural&lt;br/&gt;
and social sciences. Thanks to the American taxpayer, Licklider now&lt;br/&gt;
had the money to sponsor the emergence of a virtual social space&lt;br/&gt;
emancipated from both the market and the factory. Inside this hi-tech&lt;br/&gt;
gift economy, proprietary hardware and software were technical&lt;br/&gt;
obstacles to the most efficient ways of working. The people who built&lt;br/&gt;
the Net were the ones who ran it. In a bizarre twist, at the height of&lt;br/&gt;
the Cold War, the US military was funding the invention of cybernetic&lt;br/&gt;
communism.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Even more ironically, it was the Russian elite which lacked the&lt;br/&gt;
self-confidence to sponsor even ARPA-style small-scale experiments in&lt;br/&gt;
networked socialism. The reformers had offered a rejuvenation of the&lt;br/&gt;
world-historic mission of the vanguard party. However, for their&lt;br/&gt;
conservative opponents, the advantages of owning the imaginary future&lt;br/&gt;
were by far outweighed by the threat which the Net posed to their&lt;br/&gt;
power and authority. When the Czechoslovak reformers? theoretical&lt;br/&gt;
manifesto Civilisation at the Crossroads celebrated the Unified&lt;br/&gt;
Information Network as the demiurge of participatory democracy, the&lt;br/&gt;
subversive image of this cybernetic technology was confirmed for these&lt;br/&gt;
conservative bureaucrats. In 1968, the Russian government sent in its&lt;br/&gt;
tanks to put an end to the Prague Spring. The perpetuation of&lt;br/&gt;
totalitarian Communism depended upon the prevention of cybernetic&lt;br/&gt;
communism.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Back in the 1930s, Stalinist state planning had been at the&lt;br/&gt;
cutting-edge of economic modernity. But, by holding on to its&lt;br/&gt;
ideological monopoly, the Communist Party had deprived itself of the&lt;br/&gt;
information which it needed to deliver the goods. In 1980, the Polish&lt;br/&gt;
workers rebelled when they were once again called upon to pay for the&lt;br/&gt;
mistakes of the economic planners. The disintegration of&lt;br/&gt;
totalitarianism in one country started a chain-reaction of events&lt;br/&gt;
which within a decade brought down the entire Russian empire.&lt;br/&gt;
Communism with a big C was the future which had failed. In his 1992&lt;br/&gt;
neo-conservative bestseller The End of History and the Last Man,&lt;br/&gt;
Francis Fukuyama proudly announced that the whole world had become&lt;br/&gt;
American. With all alternatives now discredited, there was only one&lt;br/&gt;
path to modernity.&lt;br/&gt;
.&lt;br/&gt;
Back in the mid-1960s, McLuhanism had been invented as a credo of the&lt;br/&gt;
mildly reformist Democratic Party. Over the next four decades, its&lt;br/&gt;
meaning had moved steadily rightwards. In 1983, Ithiel de Sola Pool ?&lt;br/&gt;
a Bell commission member ? codified this neo-liberal appropriation of&lt;br/&gt;
McLuhanism in his masterpiece: Technologies of Freedom. From software&lt;br/&gt;
to soap operas, all forms of information would soon be traded as&lt;br/&gt;
commodities over the Net. For the first time, everybody could be a&lt;br/&gt;
media entrepreneur. By the end of the 1980s, this conservative remix&lt;br/&gt;
had become the dominant form of American McLuhanism. George Gilder ? a&lt;br/&gt;
Republican Party activist ? proclaimed the computer companies of&lt;br/&gt;
northern California as the harbingers of a free market paradise. Not&lt;br/&gt;
only Stalinist central planning, but also Social Democratic welfare&lt;br/&gt;
provision were relics from the Fordist past. Looking at Silicon&lt;br/&gt;
Valley, the neo-liberal prophets were convinced that the factory and&lt;br/&gt;
the campus were synergising into a superior entity: the hi-tech&lt;br/&gt;
entrepreneurial firm.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
By the time that the 1990s dotcom boom took off, McLuhanist&lt;br/&gt;
technological determinism had become an unapologetic celebration of&lt;br/&gt;
?out of control? capitalism. In his New Rules for the New Economy,&lt;br/&gt;
Kevin Kelly explained how technologies which were prototyped within&lt;br/&gt;
the hi-tech gift economy could be successfully spun off into&lt;br/&gt;
commercial products. Like the Stalinist elite, the music majors had&lt;br/&gt;
found out to their cost that it was futile trying to resist the onrush&lt;br/&gt;
of the McLuhanist future. In contrast, dotcom companies had shown how&lt;br/&gt;
to transform user generated content and on-line communities into&lt;br/&gt;
profitable enterprises. The phenomenal growth of MySpace, Bebo and&lt;br/&gt;
YouTube demonstrates that successful businesses can be built upon&lt;br/&gt;
Kelly?s dictum of following the free. Clever managers know how to make&lt;br/&gt;
cybernetic communism serve establishment goals.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
Like their Stalinist predecessors, these 1990s proponents of&lt;br/&gt;
McLuhanism saw themselves as the vanguard of the hi-tech utopia. As&lt;br/&gt;
the early-adopters and beta-testers of the dotcom future, this&lt;br/&gt;
privileged group was prefiguring today what the general public would&lt;br/&gt;
be doing tomorrow. When everyone had access to the Net, participatory&lt;br/&gt;
democracy and cooperative creativity would be the order of the day.&lt;br/&gt;
But, until this happy moment arrived, humanity required the guidance&lt;br/&gt;
of the cybernetic elite to reach the promised land. Ironically, in the&lt;br/&gt;
2000s, the boosters of the information society - like the Stalinists&lt;br/&gt;
before them - are unexpectedly faced with the problem of living within&lt;br/&gt;
their own future. Confounding the McLuhanist credo, the advent of the&lt;br/&gt;
Net hasn?t marked the birth of a new humanistic and equalitarian&lt;br/&gt;
civilisation. For more than four decades, the knowledge elite have&lt;br/&gt;
asserted its control over space through ownership of time. Now, in the&lt;br/&gt;
early-twenty-first century, the imaginary future of the information&lt;br/&gt;
society is materialising in the present. What the McLuhanists have to&lt;br/&gt;
explain is why utopia has been delayed.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
When the users of the Net are both consumers and producers of media,&lt;br/&gt;
the vanguard has lost its ideological monopoly. Yet, at the same time,&lt;br/&gt;
the arrival of the information society hasn?t precipitated a wider&lt;br/&gt;
social transformation. Cybernetic communism is quite compatible with&lt;br/&gt;
dotcom capitalism. Contrary to the tenets of McLuhanism, the&lt;br/&gt;
convergence of media, telecommunications and computing has not ? and&lt;br/&gt;
never will ? liberate humanity. The Net is a useful tool not a&lt;br/&gt;
mechanical saviour. In the 2000s, ordinary people have taken control&lt;br/&gt;
of sophisticated information technologies to improve their everyday&lt;br/&gt;
lives and their social conditions. Freed from the preordained futures&lt;br/&gt;
of McLuhanism, this emancipatory achievement can provide inspiration&lt;br/&gt;
for new anticipations of the shape of things to come. Cooperative&lt;br/&gt;
creativity and participatory democracy need to be extended from the&lt;br/&gt;
virtual world into all areas of life. Rather than disciplining the&lt;br/&gt;
present, our futurist visions should be open-ended and flexible. We&lt;br/&gt;
are the inventors of our own technologies. We can intervene in history&lt;br/&gt;
to realise our own interests. Our utopias provide the direction for&lt;br/&gt;
the path of human progress. Let?s be hopeful and courageous when we&lt;br/&gt;
imagine the better futures of libertarian social democracy.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
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